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I canít answer that Dave BUT the bike can be shifted into 1st gear at any speed and a semi canít be,at any time thereís only one gear that a semi transmission can be shifted into,the other 17 canít be shifted into until the rpm and speed match .Explain why the bike transmission can be downshifted into any gear at any speed?
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Sequential_manual_transmission,clutch less shifting would be less damaging with this transmission compared to others since the gears arenít directly involved in the shifting process,just the shifting dogs entering inside the gears

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Sequential_manual_transmission,clutch less shifting would be less damaging with this transmission compared to others since the gears arenít directly involved in the shifting process,just the shifting dogs entering inside the gears
Other than the size of the dogs this differs from an automotive transmission how?

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Big truck doesnít shift with dogs,it shifts similar but instead of the dogs on the shifter gear thereís splines that slide inside the driven gear,I suspect 600 hp might break off a dog type gear.

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Big truck doesnít shift with dogs,it shifts similar but instead of the dogs on the shifter gear thereís splines that slide inside the driven gear,I suspect 600 hp might break off a dog type gear.
To me those so called splines look like itsy bitsy dogs.

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To me those so called splines look like itsy bitsy dogs.
How many you seen,they look to me like a crosstie but smaller.👍

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The transmission needs to be unloaded to change gears. Before modern manufacturing allowed for tighter shifting bike transmissions, racers used a kill button to unload the transmission. I just do not accept the fact that shifting without using the clutch does no harm.
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Other than the size of the dogs this differs from an automotive transmission how?
Automotive transmissions do not use dogs, they use synchronizers.

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Automotive transmissions do not use dogs, they use synchronizers.
Okay, if you say so.

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The transmission needs to be unloaded to change gears. Before modern manufacturing allowed for tighter shifting bike transmissions, racers used a kill button to unload the transmission. I just do not accept the fact that shifting without using the clutch does no harm.
Racers donít care about damaging the transmissions,the motors gear torn down often,when I raced and on the starting line we never used the clutch for anything except in the pits,when the green flag dropped just slam it into first,I never had a broken tranny,LUCKY? [email protected]

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