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Yes, itís all true. Well, it kind of depends on your bike. Some motorcycles with great big flywheels and big gears, like many Harleys and some BMW Boxers, need the clutch Ė or at least a little clutch Ė for nearly every shift. Most sportbikes only need you to use the clutch to pull away from stops and for the shift from first to second gear.

At slow, around-town speeds, we mostly use at least a little clutch to shift anyway; you donít need to pull the lever all the way in every time you use it. But if youíre steadily accelerating, and especially at WOT (wide open throttle), youíll find that after second gear, if you roll the throttle closed just enough to unload the driveline, for just a split second, with your toe pressing on the lever, then third gear will slip right in without using the clutch at all. Fourth, 5th and 6th will slip in even easier since the gaps between them are increasingly smaller. Done smoothly, itís no harder on your gearbox than using the clutch.
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When did Honda come out with a goldwing that has a 6th gear?
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When did Honda come out with a goldwing that has a 6th gear?
He didn't mention goldwings, just most bikes have 6 speeds, especially ones that don't have the kind of torque the wing has. I shift without the clutch sometimes, but like mentioned 1st to 2nd is difficult without some gnashing and downshifting is tricky.

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yeah,
the 1500 and 1800 have way too much torque to make a habit out of clutchless shifting.


I have done it once or twice on purpose, and decided the result was dangerous to the longevity of my bike.



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the 1500 and 1800 have way too much torque to make a habit out of clutchless shifting.

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And a big diesel simi-truck don't?

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We shift big trucks back into neutral before selecting the next gear and no synchronizes in the transmission.

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We shift big trucks back into neutral before selecting the next gear and no synchronizes in the transmission.
So? And point me to the synchros in a motorcycle transmission.

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I can’t answer that Dave BUT the bike can be shifted into 1st gear at any speed and a semi can’t be,at any time there’s only one gear that a semi transmission can be shifted into,the other 17 can’t be shifted into until the rpm and speed match .Explain why the bike transmission can be downshifted into any gear at any speed?

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