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OK, if all y'all can have a thread about y'alls bows and arrows, I should be able to start one about shuriken and nunchaku. In the great Commonwealth of Kentucky, our conceal carry permits are actually referred to as CCDW where the DW stands for deadly weapon. Here is a snippet of the law:



LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED DEADLY WEAPONS IN KENTUCKY Kentucky’s license to carry concealed deadly weapons law became effective October 1, 1996 and is contained in KRS 237.110 through 237.136. The following summarizes the main provisions of the current law and includes the 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006 amendments. I. Deadly WeaponsAs used in the Kentucky Penal Code, (See KRS 500.080.) "Deadly weapon" means any of the following: (a) A weapon of mass destruction; (b) Any weapon from which a shot, readily capable of producing death or other serious physical injury, may be discharged; (c) Any knife other than an ordinary pocket knife or hunting knife; (d) Billy, nightstick, or club; (e) Blackjack or slapjack; (f) Nunchaku karate sticks; (g) Shuriken or death star; or (h) Artificial knuckles made from metal, plastic, or other similar hard material;

This question came to mind when someone said that their state allows conceaded pistol carry. Are most states that restrictive? In other words, if I come to visit you, should I leave my nukes at home?


P.S. If you're wondering why Kentucky allows such liberty. Simple. We don't allow idiots to vote. It's in our state constitution. "Idiots" and "insane" persons shall not have the right to vote. KY. CONST. § 145(3).



They left out a lot of deadly weapons. How about a hatchet or claw hammer or wood chisel or many other tools?

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how about a can of food with the tin top only half removed?


that is a very deadly piece of sharp metal.
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They left out a lot of deadly weapons. How about a hatchet or claw hammer or wood chisel or many other tools?
That pretty much means every carpenter out there is openly carrying a deadly weapon in his hammer on his tool belt. And heaven forbid we talk about nail guns!!! I was inside a house we were building and the guy on the outside was nailing on the sheathing and he missed the stud. That 16D nail blew right through the plywood and missed me by about a foot and ricocheted around the room! I am diving for cover yelling CEASE FIRE, CEASE FIRE!!!! I don't know how much harm it would have caused to me but the fact that it bounced around the room off of two or three walls makes me think it would hove gone all the way in the body. We made sure from that point on that nobody was inside while nailing on the sheathing!
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They left out a lot of deadly weapons. How about a hatchet or claw hammer or wood chisel or many other tools?

I mentioned that this was a snippet. For example, if I get pulled over and a cavity search ensues and that search reveals an orange in a nylon stocking, that is a deadly weapon also. The list is a partial list of items who's design and purpose is to inflict death or serious injury. Now if I eat that orange? No evidence, no crime.
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That pretty much means every carpenter out there is openly carrying a deadly weapon in his hammer on his tool belt. And heaven forbid we talk about nail guns!!! I was inside a house we were building and the guy on the outside was nailing on the sheathing and he missed the stud. That 16D nail blew right through the plywood and missed me by about a foot and ricocheted around the room! I am diving for cover yelling CEASE FIRE, CEASE FIRE!!!! I don't know how much harm it would have caused to me but the fact that it bounced around the room off of two or three walls makes me think it would hove gone all the way in the body. We made sure from that point on that nobody was inside while nailing on the sheathing!
They use nail guns to shoot people in movies, strange they are never attached to an air hose and don't have to be pressed up against anything to fire.

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That 16D nail blew right through the plywood and missed me by about a foot and ricocheted around the room!
Long ago I used to have a Hilty Gun that could shoot into steel. It did not have a ramming rod and some people were killed or injured in the next door concrete apartments. These guns were high velocity. ( I even shot across the Delaware while holding the barrel against a small tree)
They were made illegal when the low velocity gun with a ramming rod was introduced.
I didnt think that shooting thru plywood would propel the nail far.
I have a nice Porter Cable and I'll try today to see how it does

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That 16D nail blew right through the plywood and missed me by about a foot and ricocheted around the room!

I hope that guy was fired. Nobody, I mean nobody in their right mind would hang 7/16" thick OSB sheathing with a nail that big. The same thing happened to me years ago but it was an 8d nail. Back then, nail guns came with two triggers, black and grey. One would require you to release and pull the trigger after each shot. The other would allow you to keep the trigger pulled but pull the gun away from the work about an inch or so then push it against the work and it would fire. This was the preferred setup because guys found they could bounce the gun and nail as fast as they could bounce it. A guy was bouncing the gun around a window opening and caught the edge and a nail hit me in the back of my head. I knew exactly what happened and felt to see how far the nail went in. I had long hair back then and the nail was just kinda hanging there. I think nail guns and ramsets have enough force to drive nails but the travel of the rod is to short to give nails the velocity they need to do much damage from a distance. So, all that was just to say, a nail gun is a piss poor weapon of any kind, let alone a deadly weapon.
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"if I get pulled over and a cavity search ensues"



Just what cavity are we talking about that will hold an orange in a nylon stocking?

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Just what cavity are we talking about that will hold an orange in a nylon stocking?
Well I guess somebody was bound to go there...

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No, the guy wasn't fired. He was a friend and the guy in charge was my Brother in law and we were doing the work for a relative so it was all free work anyway. And the nail may not have been a 16, It was 20 years ago and I am not a carpenter, I am a mechanic. I have a Porter-Cable and I have tried the nail shooting by holding the plunger and shooting 2 1/2 inch nails at heavy cardboard. It will do some damage out to 25-30 feet but the nail is not exactly a precision projectile. Every shot it hit a different way. Only once did it stick in and that was on an angle. Now, distance wise, I shot a nail into the woods 200 feet away using Kentucky windage. All of my nail guns will bump fire with only one trigger. The Porter Cable is only about 10 years old so if anything it would be the one with double safeties on it but none. All I have to do is hold the trigger and smack the nose of the gun against the board. That can be dangerous if you don't pull back fast enough since you might get a double shot and when the second nail hits the first it can ricochet.

I remember the Hilti guns when they first came out. You had to get a license to use the gun! The purple charge was the one used for steel beams. I would NOT try firing one of those into the air!!!!!! I saw a guy come into the hospital who had used the steel charge to shoot a nail into a 2x4 on a concrete floor. Blew the floor apart like a shooting a 30-06 directly into a concrete block. Back then eye protection was not thought about all that much but luckily this guy wore glasses and he had on the protective type as his prescription. I was on the emergency squad at the time and we stopped by the construction site on the way back to the station to see what had happened. It was impressive to say the least. Totally splintered the board and blew a hole 4" deep and probably 8" around in the floor. His injuries were all minor cuts and small pieces of concrete to be removed from his arms and face.
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