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Ahhh I am Addicted to Hard Drives ....Went and got 2 more SSD on Sale


1 I will use for a soon to find laptop (used) more than likely Lenovo x250



2nd drive I will re do this machine for last time, will Mimick Johns Gparted , I am close to Johns partition scheme with this drive I am on now, but not as much room.



Now I got a 500gb drive , so plenty room for timeshift, like Big Bad John ...LOL

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I guess I'm just old school. I like magnetic drives for data reliability and their fail method is generally slow as opposed all or none with SSDs. Also that electron tunneling problem has always bugged me.
The SSD drives do a lot of tricks behind the scenes to to make it look normal in there.

As for partitions, I like a 3 Gig swap file and the rest a single partition unless I have dual boots going on.
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I guess I'm just old school. I like magnetic drives for data reliability and their fail method is generally slow as opposed all or none with SSDs. Also that electron tunneling problem has always bugged me.
The SSD drives do a lot of tricks behind the scenes to to make it look normal in there.

As for partitions, I like a 3 Gig swap file and the rest a single partition unless I have dual boots going on.

The SSD is just for running machine, and make partition for timeshift.

Then what I do is I already have a Brand new 2 TB Sata old school Platter I will offload the timeshift too, every so often. In reality I have a 250 gig SSD in this thing

but I got carried away with timeshift did crazy settings like keep 5 daily copies 5 weekly 5 monthly . And I ran out of room well not really but it was getting out of control .



I guess I am addicted to the speed of these things they are crazy fast.



Little Leary of the firmware.



But few minutes ago , I plopped in this cute little laptop size drive into my caddy

and backed up stuff to it as well. (rotate backups) it is just a sata
and stuff was flying on it .



I went on a spell of no computers ( only tablets for a bit) I know people have better machines than mine, but this machine is so smooth and fast to me , it is like the firefox will fly out the glass. Or file manager for that matter.




This New Linux is is often over my head, compared to Linux I am use to back when I used it. But that is going back some years. It is so windows like . We never had

timeshift type stuff that I recall in Redhat or Package Managers. I don't even recall update notices.



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The main thing is to make sure you use the magnetic drive for anything being constantly written by the OS. Things like the swap partition etc. Otherwise you end up aging out the SSD early.

Nothing wrong and plenty good about older hardware. If you keep the fans cleaned and the cpu/video chip in good heat sink compound, the thing should last decades.

Every version of Linux has plenty of difficult to understand areas. Especially how often the maintainers change the way they are doing things, release to release. Back when it was all servers and command line interfaces, things were pretty reliably the same but still different between the major distros.

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the Mint developers went out of their way to make Linux friendly to the masses who don't necessarily want to be geeks.


the core underneath is still there, same commands to do the dirty work.


but, we now have nice GUI tools on top, and especially in Cinnamon where the desktop has purposely been tweaked to allow 'Window users' to just sit down and surf the 'net,

have backup tools that are easy to learn.


I am not using Swap at all, with 12gB of RAM, it is never needed.
I left 30 gB of unallocated space at the end of the SSD for the firmware to use to replace bad blocks if/when those occur.


I don't even have to mess with updates anymore, as I have crontab jobs to do that for me now.




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Mon Aug 6 08:32:15 CDT 2018 as of today, this is my crontab job file:


# email to the user the crontab file belongs to (unless redirected).
#
# For example, you can run a backup of all your user accounts
# at 5 a.m every week with:
# 0 5 * * 1 tar -zcf /var/backups/home.tgz /home/
#
# For more information see the manual pages of crontab(5) and cron(8)
#
# m h dom mon dow command

PATH="/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/sbin"

0 12 * * * cat /home/john/add-line >> /home/john/mintupdatetoolcron.log

1 12 * * * date >> /home/john/mintupdatetoolcron.log

2 12 * * * mintupdate-tool -r -l 1234 -y -s -nk upgrade >> /home/john/mintupdatetoolcron.log

0 18 * * * date >> /home/john/fstrim.log

5 18 * * * sudo fstrim -a -v >> /home/john/fstrim.log


****** the line that says "addline", all it does is draw equal signs and a blank line


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I have it write the changes to a log file.



here is a simple log where no updates were released on that day
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Thu Feb 14 12:01:01 CST 2019
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
linux-hwe-tools-4.15.0-39 linux-tools-4.15.0-39-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
==================================




and here is a day's log of when it found updates to be done.


==================================

Mon Feb 18 12:01:01 CST 2019
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
linux-hwe-tools-4.15.0-39 linux-tools-4.15.0-39-generic
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
Suggested packages:
systemd-ui systemd-container
The following packages will be upgraded:
libpam-systemd libpci3 libsystemd0 libsystemd0:i386 libudev1 libudev1:i386
pciutils systemd systemd-sysv udev
10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 5,718 kB of archives.
After this operation, 130 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 libpam-systemd amd64 229-4ubuntu21.16 [115 kB]
Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 libudev1 amd64 229-4ubuntu21.16 [54.1 kB]
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main i386 libudev1 i386 229-4ubuntu21.16 [57.2 kB]
Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 udev amd64 229-4ubuntu21.16 [992 kB]
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main i386 libsystemd0 i386 229-4ubuntu21.16 [222 kB]
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 libsystemd0 amd64 229-4ubuntu21.16 [204 kB]
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 systemd amd64 229-4ubuntu21.16 [3,784 kB]
Get:8 http://mirror.cs.pitt.edu/ubuntu/archive xenial-updates/main amd64 libpci3 amd64 1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3 [24.3 kB]
Get:9 http://mirror.cs.pitt.edu/ubuntu/archive xenial-updates/main amd64 pciutils amd64 1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3 [254 kB]
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security/main amd64 systemd-sysv amd64 229-4ubuntu21.16 [11.6 kB]
Fetched 5,718 kB in 14s (391 kB/s)
(Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5% (Reading database ... 10% (Reading database ... 15% (Reading database ... 20% (Reading database ... 25% (Reading database ... 30% (Reading database ... 35% (Reading database ... 40% (Reading database ... 45% (Reading database ... 50% (Reading database ... 55% (Reading database ... 60% (Reading database ... 65% (Reading database ... 70% (Reading database ... 75% (Reading database ... 80% (Reading database ... 85% (Reading database ... 90% (Reading database ... 95% (Reading database ... 100% (Reading database ... 333775 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libpam-systemd_229-4ubuntu21.16_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libpam-systemd:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Preparing to unpack .../libudev1_229-4ubuntu21.16_i386.deb ...
De-configuring libudev1:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Unpacking libudev1:i386 (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Preparing to unpack .../libudev1_229-4ubuntu21.16_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libudev1:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
Setting up libudev1:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
Setting up libudev1:i386 (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
(Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5% (Reading database ... 10% (Reading database ... 15% (Reading database ... 20% (Reading database ... 25% (Reading database ... 30% (Reading database ... 35% (Reading database ... 40% (Reading database ... 45% (Reading database ... 50% (Reading database ... 55% (Reading database ... 60% (Reading database ... 65% (Reading database ... 70% (Reading database ... 75% (Reading database ... 80% (Reading database ... 85% (Reading database ... 90% (Reading database ... 95% (Reading database ... 100% (Reading database ... 333775 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../udev_229-4ubuntu21.16_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking udev (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Preparing to unpack .../libsystemd0_229-4ubuntu21.16_amd64.deb ...
De-configuring libsystemd0:i386 (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Unpacking libsystemd0:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Preparing to unpack .../libsystemd0_229-4ubuntu21.16_i386.deb ...
Unpacking libsystemd0:i386 (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Preparing to unpack .../systemd_229-4ubuntu21.16_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking systemd (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
Setting up libsystemd0:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
Setting up libsystemd0:i386 (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
Setting up systemd (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
addgroup: The group `systemd-journal' already exists as a system group. Exiting.
[/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf:14] Duplicate line for path "/var/log", ignoring.
Cannot set file attribute for '/var/log/journal', value=0x00800000, mask=0x00800000: Operation not supported
Cannot set file attribute for '/var/log/journal/bbada5cfcc9a4a80ac8dc5ce6d9f53aa', value=0x00800000, mask=0x00800000: Operation not supported
Processing triggers for dbus (1.10.6-1ubuntu3.3) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
(Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5% (Reading database ... 10% (Reading database ... 15% (Reading database ... 20% (Reading database ... 25% (Reading database ... 30% (Reading database ... 35% (Reading database ... 40% (Reading database ... 45% (Reading database ... 50% (Reading database ... 55% (Reading database ... 60% (Reading database ... 65% (Reading database ... 70% (Reading database ... 75% (Reading database ... 80% (Reading database ... 85% (Reading database ... 90% (Reading database ... 95% (Reading database ... 100% (Reading database ... 333775 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../systemd-sysv_229-4ubuntu21.16_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking systemd-sysv (229-4ubuntu21.16) over (229-4ubuntu21.15) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Setting up systemd-sysv (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
(Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5% (Reading database ... 10% (Reading database ... 15% (Reading database ... 20% (Reading database ... 25% (Reading database ... 30% (Reading database ... 35% (Reading database ... 40% (Reading database ... 45% (Reading database ... 50% (Reading database ... 55% (Reading database ... 60% (Reading database ... 65% (Reading database ... 70% (Reading database ... 75% (Reading database ... 80% (Reading database ... 85% (Reading database ... 90% (Reading database ... 95% (Reading database ... 100% (Reading database ... 333775 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libpci3_1%3a3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libpci3:amd64 (1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3) over (1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
Setting up libpci3:amd64 (1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu10) ...
(Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5% (Reading database ... 10% (Reading database ... 15% (Reading database ... 20% (Reading database ... 25% (Reading database ... 30% (Reading database ... 35% (Reading database ... 40% (Reading database ... 45% (Reading database ... 50% (Reading database ... 55% (Reading database ... 60% (Reading database ... 65% (Reading database ... 70% (Reading database ... 75% (Reading database ... 80% (Reading database ... 85% (Reading database ... 90% (Reading database ... 95% (Reading database ... 100% (Reading database ... 333775 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../pciutils_1%3a3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking pciutils (1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3) over (1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.2) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Setting up pciutils (1:3.3.1-1.1ubuntu1.3) ...
Setting up libpam-systemd:amd64 (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
debconf: (TERM is not set, so the dialog frontend is not usable.)
debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline
Setting up udev (229-4ubuntu21.16) ...
addgroup: The group `input' already exists as a system group. Exiting.
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.14) ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-45-generic
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_guc_ver9_14.bin for module i915
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_guc_ver8_7.bin for module i915
==================================


all hidden, ran in the background, does not impede me while I am using the PC, it just waits until my fingers aren't doing anything and does it quietly.
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it just waits until my fingers aren't doing anything and does it quietly.
Nice that it doesn't wake you up.
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do you guys use pulse audio ?



I spy on my system with htop, and this thing pulse audio uses resources more than i like.
Think I switch to alsa

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I just use the Default audio that Mint installed, it has always worked for me.
I kind of think it is Pulse Audio. don't know that for a fact.



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