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That's really protecting the hard drive from being tampered with. Windows10 is protecting its asset. Did you get some version of Linux to work on it?


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That's really protecting the hard drive from being tampered with. Windows10 is protecting its asset. Did you get some version of Linux to work on it?
Mageia came the closest, it actually appeared to fully install, the GUI was up and running, then when it said to "remove install media and reboot", Linux crashed.


having thought about it now for a while, I am thinking the BIOS is not allowing access to foreign OS's period.
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It's likely encrypted. This is a function of the BIOS, not Windows 10. There's probably some security settings in the BIOS. Once set, that encryption is permanent unless you completely wipe the drive.

A lot of newer machines are doing this in the interest of laptop security, the idea is to prevent access of the system drive by booting any live OS, and to prevent access by removing the system drive and connecting it to another computer.

If you were to pull that system drive out and put in another drive you could most likely see it. Might have to twiddle the security settings in BIOS. Be very careful doing this, you will likely make your system drive unreadable, too. I'd recommend doing a FULL BACKUP of the system drive before doing ANYTHING like this first so your system can be restored if something goes awry.

You won't be able to decrypt the system drive, but making it an external drive and doing a low-level format (wiping EVERYTHING) should restore the drive to out-of-the-box unencrypted state.

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It's likely encrypted. This is a function of the BIOS, not Windows 10. There's probably some security settings in the BIOS. Once set, that encryption is permanent unless you completely wipe the drive.

A lot of newer machines are doing this in the interest of laptop security, the idea is to prevent access of the system drive by booting any live OS, and to prevent access by removing the system drive and connecting it to another computer.

If you were to pull that system drive out and put in another drive you could most likely see it. Might have to twiddle the security settings in BIOS. Be very careful doing this, you will likely make your system drive unreadable, too. I'd recommend doing a FULL BACKUP of the system drive before doing ANYTHING like this first so your system can be restored if something goes awry.

You won't be able to decrypt the system drive, but making it an external drive and doing a low-level format (wiping EVERYTHING) should restore the drive to out-of-the-box unencrypted state.
I had already thought to replace the OEM SSD, and save it.
But, it is buried underneath so much copper pipe cooling stuff that it is invisible. I can't find it w/o taking the laptop totally apart.

when I opened it up, that is when I discovered that it has a 2nd HDD tray available. I dropped in a 120gB SSD that I already had on hand.

if that works, I would replace that with a 500gB or 1TB SSD.

this review shows the bottom side of the laptop, it is for last year's model, but looks the same as this one.

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/1972...x504ge-review/


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Holy Hanna! that's a gigantic heat sink. The second hdd slot is that the rectangular metal lid next to the right cooling fan?


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Holy Hanna! that's a gigantic heat sink. The second hdd slot is that the rectangular metal lid next to the right cooling fan?
IIRC,
you are right. been a long time now since I installed it.
the dimensions don't look right though, it installed as a standard 2.5" HDD,
so I believe that the picture has chopped off a 1/3rd of the PC board.
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Opening up a Dell E6410 is 'Tinkerer Friendly' and you don't mind swapping stuff. That looks more like barbed wire and don't touch.
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I went and looked at the website and found the complete pic of the interior and it shows a hdd in the lower right. What's really under that metal lid? I wonder where the primary hdd is hidden? Is the lower right where you installed a hard drive or is it the main one?
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Circled in red is your system drive, it is not a form factor you are used to. Called SATA M.2

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Ah!!!

I remember seeing that little vertical piece of silicon now.
I thought it was the memory chips... those must be up top under the metal piece.

the lower right, is where I slid in the 120gB SSD. would have used a bigger one, but those got used up

I'm wondering now, if I replaced that SATA M.2 SSD with a blank one, if the BIOS would let me install Linux on it?
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