Honda Air filter $36.00 OUCH!! K&N $73.00 Ouch!!, Ouch!! - Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums

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Hello,

I started doing maintenance on my new/old bike (only had it a week 1988 GL1500)

these GL1500 have allot to take off to get to the Air Filter ie: seat faux tank cover.

When I pulled the filter, It was really bad, completely pluged, with the usuall butterflys and moths and 1/4" crud on top of the filter media, that explains why it was running rough.

went on line to Bike bandit looked up OEM air filter $36.00.

I dont want to get into a debate but we have all heard the negative's about K & N.

BesidesK&N's are $73.00ea. plus cleaner & oil sprays. thats two OEM filters, & almost Seven of the Napa filters (7ea Napa filters = 84000 miles)

the service manual says they last 12k miles. Hmm!!

I knew that neither of those were going to work for me. I was looking for a "cheap upgrade", that would filter at least as good as the OEM does.

I took the old OEM Air Filter, cut through the paper element up close to the air filter frameall the way around pulled the old paper elementout, then I had the old air filter frame.

I took theAir Filter frame (after the filter was removed)to Napa to see what would drop right in to that cut out.

I found that Napa part number 6425 will fit in the frame.

I used a tube of shoo goop (Walmart$4.00 a tube 1 tube will do many changes) to seal and mount the new filter to the old OEMframe put a small bead of shoo goop all the way around filter put into frame and set it aside, do an oil change or another maintenance item afew hours later it should be dry.

Napa # 6425 $9.70ea. Napa has WIX build their filters for themyou will notice more paper than the honda unit(more filter area)and Much more paper than those cheap Fram units.

Napa $9.70ea. + $1.00 sealant

Honda's $36.00ea. I could buy 3-1/3ea. Napa filters for that price,by the time I spent $36.00I could drive 40,000 miles with the Napa filters. 3-1/3 Honda filters would have cost $119.88.

K & N $73.00ea. + Cleaner spray $? + Oil Spray $?, I could buy 6.82ea. Napa filters for that price, by the time I spent $73.00+, I could drive 81,840 miles with the Napa filters.

I dont like using the K&N product for my vehicals because their claim of up to 90% efficency, allot of people like K&N and have no problems, for me I want full filtration not 70-80 or 90%

I am paying for filtration thats what I expect not an extra 5h.p. maybe, and then not do what it was designed?? for or what Iam paying for. Is that bait and switch, or smoke and mirrors?

Just my cent & half (sorry it's all I got left)

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Great thinking. If I had a 1500 I would probably do the same.

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you think getting to the air filter on a 1500 is bad, wait until you try it on a 1800

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Thanks for the info.. I have no idea when my air filted was last change.. No records.. Have been putting it off because it looks likea lot of plastic has to be removed.. How long did it take??

Back to riding after a 30 yr lay off.. Started with a 86 Magna 750 on to a 02 Shadow 1100,99 Magna 750,91 ST1100, finaly a 93 Wing.. and now an 06 1800 Loven Life...
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Hey Foodman,

You know, it wasnt that big of a deal, I only own this bike for a week, the PO said that it had been completely serviced.

I think that meant Oil was changed and maybe the spark plugs. My 86' GL1200 one key flip gas door open open other door lift out tray B A M! your at the air cleaner.

The GL1500 while it is no big deal. You have to remove the seat. Then remove the Faux tank cover. While your in there might as well change the fuel filter, mine looked pretty dirty from what I could see through it's opaqe plastic,you can Buy Napa Fuel Filter Part Number,

Napa Gold#3003 $4.39 Fuel Filter, it has Clear Plastic so you can see it's status.

The only thing I would suggest, is to replace the fuel line I bought 3 ft, to go from gas tank to fuel filter, to rigid fuel line where connected now,

I also replaced the clamps with the Stainless steel, leaking fuel and fires make me nervous.

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1983 GL1100 72K 32DFT Single 2-bbl Progressive Carb, and Runs Excellent,
1984 GL1200A 55K Reverse Trike Project, Single 2bbl. Progressive carb
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1988 GL1500/6 Phantom Grey 2-bbl SCC Trike Mustang GT Rearend, Rear Disc Brakes, HD Mufflers
2005 Burgman 650 20K
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2013 Honda NC700X 4k, AVG 77.68mpg
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Westgl,
Thanks for the info.. I got the same deal when I bought my bike.. It has just had a 30k miles service.. WHAT the heck is that?? Well anyway I guess I know what I'll be doing next week..

Back to riding after a 30 yr lay off.. Started with a 86 Magna 750 on to a 02 Shadow 1100,99 Magna 750,91 ST1100, finaly a 93 Wing.. and now an 06 1800 Loven Life...
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Westgl,

Good Job!!! I was thinking of the same thing or similar, and I started checking into frame filters.

I noticed that some are flex rubber and othersdid have rigid plastic. The prices varied, so I am still researching and want to be careful in the mods.

I will check our your filter.

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Westgl,

Good Job!!! I was thinking of the same thing or similar, and I started checking into frame filters.

I noticed that some are flex rubber and othersdid have rigid plastic. The prices varied, so I am still researching and want to be careful in the mods.

I will check our your filter.

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Thanks West.

I'm gonna try the filter mod this week. Is the "shoo goop" some form of rtv or silicone rubber? Thanks.

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Thank for INFO. Lee
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