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I know it's best to try to stay specific but untill I learn my way around I was hoping I could find a little help all in one place

I have a 1986 GL1200 Aspencade, it has 65K on it and I have had it for a couple years now,, my first GoldWing by the way

I changed the oil and followed my local Honda shops suggestion (first mistake) personaly it didn't sound right to me but they suggested 5W20 for it.

well I immediately noticed a prob with the clutch, it started letting out kinda high on the lever, also the leaks I had just fixed with new valve covers started back up I did change the oil back to the 15W40 that it should have been BUT I still have the clutch prob. when cold it slams into first and second then gets better as the bike warms up, if I throttle it aggressively it will slip a little

I am going to change the fluid and bleed it out as I read on another forum here, I think the spray bottle for a poor mans vac is an excellent idea. Is there anything else I should look for

The other thing is it has always been cold natured, and I mean real cold natured but now I have to run the choke about 1/2 on unless I'm running over 3rd gear as it wants to shudder and skip real bad at low RPMS, I ran some inj/carb cleaner in my gas and it got better but it's still there,,,,, what is this I read about draining the far right carb, our last trip to the north Ga mountains scarred the bejezzes out of me as I would drop into the turn hit the throttle and it would want to fall on it's face any thoughts on that one would be greatly appreciated

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your carbs may need some cleaning, about the clutch, check the lever sometimes it sticks and causes the clutch to slip
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Run some Sea Foam through a couple of tanks of fuel to see if that helps your carbs out, they also may need to be synced.

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Welcome AJ.
First thing if you put 5/20 oil in it it was most likely an energy conserving type oil with friction modifiers that will coat the clutch disks and cause slippage.
About the clutch bleeding, air in the clutch system will NOT cause slipping.......
On the lean running, check the pumps where you get fuel and be sure it does not have any alcohol in it.

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Thanks, on the clutch bleeding, my thoughts were to replace the fluid as a maintenance item, I don't know if it's ever been done before I bought the bike. I read about adding MMO to the oil to possibly help with clutch issues, what is MMO

Oh and I just remmebered, the ele fuel pump is making a clicking noise, I think the running weird started when that happened. I prob should take it and get the pressure checked. I can say there is no alcohol in it, well except the up to 10% ethonol used here in all gas

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Yes changing the clutch fluid is a good idea along with the rest of the fluids. Marvel Mystery oil(MMO) is some pretty good stuff, if the clutch problem is because of the oil I don't know if it would help but it won't hurt. The fuel pump is supposed to make a clicking noise as it pumps but should stop after a few seconds when you turn it on and only make an occasional click when it's running. Even 10% ethanol will cause a lean condition an something that is on the verge of too lean already.

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So if the ethanol is making it run lean, what would be the best action to correct it. I have noticed, this morning actualy, that it is worse the colder it is outside. the warmer it is the faster the bike warms up and the skipping/surging at low RPM almost goes away and I can shut the choke off, if it's coldit seems to never warm up enough to go away and when I get into traffic I have to use the choke more

On the fuel pump it clicks all the time, not fast but it never stops, sometimes it will have long durations between but it doesn't stop. this is a new thing as it never did it till recently

OK Marvel oil, got it, say a qt with the nomal oil.

Thanks for all the input and suggestions, I really appreciate it

I have a lot of years as a mechanic, and have worked on many bikes, but this one is different, a bit more to it than I'm used too. But I'm learning

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marvel mystery oil MMO.... pinging is probably just bad gas,
sounds like you have an idle jet that is not working right, another carb trick is to drain the carbs, mix 50:50 gas and carb cleaner, let this sit for several hours, drain (and just toss into the tank) refill with gas and run it
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Seafoam in the oil will help clear up the clutch. Do a search on this site and follow the general directions. You don't want to leave it in for too long. I would also go back to a 10-40 motorcycle oil either dino or synthetic.

I'm not familiar with the 1200 but if it has carbs I would do the following: richen the pilot jet circuit a bit and see what happens. Try 1/2 a turn out on each carb and go from there. I'm not sure what you have the idle set at but run it a little higher say 1050-1100 range. This also seems to help with low speed issues.

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