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I have an 1984 Aspencade 1200. I have small amounts of oil dripping from the weep hole under the water pump. I found a post from Exvad (hope thats right) that said the o rings in the pump body need to be changed. He posted to diagrams but I am unable to locate them know. I called bike bandit and got two part numbers #243964 001 and 244376 001. I can not tell if I need more or if I should get some gaskets for the water pump and the pump body, maybe some bolts just in case?



I know I will have to change the radiator fluid and the oil/filter. Am I missing something else?



At this time there is no oil in the raditor or water in the oil. But I am sure it wont be long. The bike is my only transportation. I do not own a car my wife dose and she will not let me borrow it, I have to fix it when it breaks but I am not allowed to drive it!

By the way the post from Exvad was from 2005.

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Exavid has been here from the start and is still with us, we tried to retire him off but he wont go.

It sounds like you already know your water pump has to come out of the Wing. If you need any pointers along the way just ask.
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Oil leaks from the oil seal on the pump shaft or from the mounting bolts..bad crush washers.not the o rings on the pump body..this is for an 1100 I think the 1200's are the same..

green oil ,,,blue water

the oil seal is on #6 right about where the #6 line points to..actually sits in the trans cover..
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If I was going to replace O rings in the water pump I would get me a new water pump. Either way you will need the water pump gasket kit.

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RB is correct , it is normally the oil seal on the pump shaft causing this problem. Honda nr.= 91207-580-003 .

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RB do I need to take the transmission cover off to get to this seal? From the sound of it I do not but time line with ordering parts and the fact that this is my only transportation..... I need to order all the parts the first time. I under stand I may snap a bolt but we have a fastenal in town that should have any bolts I may need.



I will order water pump gasket also.



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Yep the hold thing has to come off the pump is bolted on through the back of the tanny cover..
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I would replace the water pump as the bearing seals have been comprised and it will fail.
As there is no gasket kit for the 1200 you'll have to order the individual gaskets, o-rings and seals.
Here's what I see you needing.

Water pump.

The two o-rings that go on the water pump.

Water pump gasket.

Front cover gasket.

Water pump cover o-ring.

The oil pump seal that RB mentioned.

The o-ring that surrounds the oil pump seal.

Two water jacket o-rings.

Two oil galley o-rings.


You maybe able to do it without removing the radiator but unless the hoses have been replaced recently I would pull it and replace the hoses.

Also unless you know the timing belts have been replaced this would be a good time to do that little job.

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BTW: I'm sure I missed something so you'd best be on the wifes good side as you may need her car for a couple of parts runs.

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I just did this and it wasn't all that bad. I bought the gasket kit and new pump from Venco Wings.

If you do replace the pump, which I would also recommend, is before you seat it to do a dry fit and make sure the fins spin freely. The OEM pump I purchased apparently had a fin that was a tad out and ended up scraping the housing which ultimatley caused it not to seal.

After grinding down the fin so it wouldn't hit and a second gasket kit everything went together and no leaks.

As with others recommendations on this board, I made a cardboard template from the gasket to mark where all the bolts go and punched them through so I wouldn't get them mixed up because they are different lengths.

Use just a dab of grease with the o-rings to hold them in place for reassembly.

The oil seal was kind of a bugger to get out for me. Replacing it was easy though.

I didn't have to remove the radiator. I just had to remove the lower radiator bolts which allowed it to swing out for a bit more room to get some of the tight clearance bolts out. I will say that it was real tight getting the radiator cap off and on. One may have to remove the false tank to get at it.

I don't think the kit comes with o-ring for the lower radiator hose neck that connects to the front of the water pump housing. Just something to think about if you might need a new one.

FYI - the bolt at the 6 o'clock position of the water pump is a drain.

Be careful cleaning the old gasket off.

I never had done it before and it really wan't that bad. Just take your time.
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I am having the same thing happen on warm up I get 2 drops of black oil
out the weap hole. Where is the best place to get a new water pump and
gasket set from sounds like I need to stay away from saber cycles.
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