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First I want to thank those that have helped me in the past. This Forum is the best.

I recently bought a 1984 Gold Wing Aspencade. It has been sitting for several years. I took my time cleaned it up - new fluids etc. Started and I have been riding it all summer. Recently I replaced a rear tire and while waiting for parts I pulled the plugs and flushed vinegar throughout the carburetors again to do another flush. (I did itwhen I purchased the bike to open up the carburetors and it worked great.)

I had my air nozzle out and blowing the vinegar out of the carburetor and out of the cylinders. Iwas turning over theengine with the starter and blowing out the cylinders whenIaccidentally kicked the transmission in tolow gear. WHAM The engine has been frozen since.

Even with the plugsout Ican not turn over the engine. I can put it in to neutral and spin the rear tire. I thought I mayhave bent a valve so I pulled the timing belts and turned the cams. Valves are not hung up but I could not move the crank.

I have been soaking the pistons with light oil and penetrating oil - I have tried pulling the bike. rocking it back and forth - I can't get the engine to free up.


Oh, the first thing I did was to pull the starter out to see if I bound the chain or sprocket. All turn fine - one direction but no kinks or etc. Checked the starter and it's ok. With all of my rocking etc I have had the starter out.


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Gosh...... the only thing that comes to mind is maybe the starter clutch is jambed...... since you knocked it gear as the starter was cranking. Maybe pull the starter and see if anything will free up. Transmission is free as you say you can find neutral and spin the rear wheel.

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Thanks for the reply. I can turn the sprocket and chain with no resistance. One way because of the clutch. I'm scratching my head

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I would guess that the vinegar washed the oil off the cylinders and caused the rings to score the cylinder and locking up the engine. It doesn't take much.

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That could be it. I'll keep trying to get oil back on the cylinders

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Asp Just curious, what was the vinagar suppose to do ? I know it's good for mineral deposits, but what in a fuel system ?

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I had fuel that varnished in the tank, fuel lines, carburetors, etc. Only 2 carburetors were open - tank supply line was plugged. It was a suggestion from another member to open things up and it worked great. Not to strong to effect gaskets.

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I doubt that the rings are seized to the walls. Did it stop immediately when you put it in first gear? How much liquid are you talking about here?? Possibly a hyd lock that bent a rod--but doubt it. Could be that the primary chain failed due to the shock of going into first gear. Could be a broken cog in one of the gears that jammed--even in neutral with the rear wheel able to spin freely.

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Yes it stopped immediately. There was very little liquid. I was using a syringe to put it in to the fuel lines and then pushing it through with light air pressure with an air nozzle. I was wondering about the primary chain as well. Bound it up some how. I can put the bike in gear and release it to push it with the clutch in so I'm not sure about transmission also with its on the center stand I can go through the gears but I'm running out of ideas. Boy I do not want to have to go after that primary.

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Still don't know what the vinegar was for... I've read as ideas for rusted gas tanks and dirty fuel caps and deposits in radiators... but the carburetors??? but like others have said, I don't think that is the problem.. vinegar all winter might do some damage, but for a few hours or a day... Not... something is jammed. maybe broken..

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