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I have a serious question for all people here. I am looking to purchase new tires for my 2008 GL1800. I was not impressed with the OEM Dunlop Elite 3's. Living in Ohio the Dunlop’s always seemed to slip a little on rain slicked roads (I'm not an aggressive rider). I like the Avon Cobra reviews, but I have to ask a couple of questions ...

Question #1: Has anyone here hadexperience that they will share concerning theinstallion/ride usinga "car" tire on the rear of their wing?

I have seen some mixed reviews and have zero personal experience with this concept.

Question #2: I will be moving to the Mesa, Arizona area next year. Will the excessive heat on the Arizona desert require a different tire consideration?

It’s almost riding weather here in Ohio! )

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Welcome jfranks
Here are some reads on darksiding on 1800s
https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/...l1800+darkside

Also tryhttp://gl1800riders.com/forums/forums.php and scroll down and click on

darksider forum link.

Here it is

http://gl1800riders.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31

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.....what Sethan said. Welcome to the forum.

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Thank you for the great advice and information links!

Over the last few days I have done a great deal of research on "darksiding".

Dunlop Elite 3 information from the Dunlop website:
http://dunlopmotorcycle.com/tirecatalog_tire.asp?id=91

180/60R16 - Recommended Rim: 5.00", Overall Diameter: 24.39, Overall Width: 7.16, Maximum Load: 992 lbs at 41 PSI
180/70R16 - Recommended Rim: 5.00", Overall Diameter: 26.06, Overall Width: 7.13, Maximum Load: 910 lbs at 41 PSI


I was a little shocked that the OEM Dunlop Elite 3 is only rated for 992 pounds. The lowest load rating that I found for any CT that I considered was 1201 pounds (87).

I have a great deal of respect for all the posts about using a run flat tire on my Wing. I have had a tire deflate extremely quickly and come off of the rim of my car. Glad to say that I wasn't driving on the interstate at 70mph. I wish that the Michelin Pilot Sport AS+ ZP (zero pressure) was made in a size that fit our bikes.

Joe: From your photo ... It looks to me like you are using a Michelin Pilot Sport AS+ on your bike. (Can you tell that I have studied tires/tread patterns a lot lately? LOL). That is one of my top choices. Would you be willing to share your experiences with me?

So far my top choices are:
Michelin Pilot Sport AS+: 205/55/ZR16
Kumho Ecsta SPT XPR: 205/55/16

Would anyone have experience with either of these tires?

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jfranks: you are correct, I am running the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus 205/55/ZR16 at 41psi. I did alot of research and learned quite a bit from DaveO430. I pretty much stole Dave's ideas. I found only 2 drawbacks. The first is that the 205 really doesn't want to go up in the wheel well. We had to take the battery and battery box and some other electrics out to get to the inner wheel well so we could tie the wheel well back a bit so the tire didn't touch. The second is that the tire isn't a runflat. It is a Z rated tire, so it has a stiffer sidewall, but not a runflat. In discussing that with Dave, he chose a non runflat on purpose because he felt the runflats had an angle where they seemed to tip-over a bit. I believe that is due to the thick sidewall. I'm sure if Dave sees this thread he'll chime in and correct whatever I've said incorrectly.

I have read alot of discussions ref CTs and I do think the Pirelli Eufori 195/55/R16 (runflat) is a really interesting tire. One of the guys on the GL1800riders site cut one in half and the cross view was pretty impressive. But then, I don't have a clue how it rides.

If you have not found the GL1800riders site yet, check out the darksiding threads there. I see newday suggested the same. Here is a list of darksiders and some of the tires they use:
http://www.murgie.com/dsi_roster.txt

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Oh, I forgot to mention....the tire I'm running sheds water like nobody's business.

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I too run the Michelin 205 AS tire, and have over 8,000 miles on this one, and not noticeable wear. I was able to tie my inner fender back on the bike without removing any electrics, just good old laying under it and getting it done. I only run about 37 psi in mine though, but like Joe says, it sheds water like no body's business, and handles gravel and dirt roads 10x better than a bike tire. Another advantage is I don't get the low speed wobble so common with the wing. So overall, I won't go back to MC tire on the rear.

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FYI - For comparison to the OEM Dunlop Elite 3 information:

Michelin Pilot Sport AS+: 205/55/ZR16
Recommended Rim: 5.5"-7.5", Overall Diameter: 24.9", Overall Width: 8.4", Maximum Load: 1356lbs, Rev/Mile: 836

Kumho Ecsta SPT XPR: 205/55/16
Recommended Rim: 5.5"-7.5", Overall Diameter: 24.9", Overall Width: 8.4", Maximum Load: 1356lbs, Rev/Mile: 834

Kumho Ecsta SPT XPR: 195/55/16
Recommended Rim: 5.5"-7.5", Overall Diameter: 24.4", Overall Width: 7.9", Maximum Load: 1201lbs, Rev/Mile: 855

Any other brand/size of tire recommendations are welcome!

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Good point on the breakover point on a run flat. I have read many pages links on the GL1800riders site. The more I read, the more excited I get about putting a CT on my Wing!

I have looked at the Michelin Pilot Exalto AS. Less of a traction rating, but it has rounded treadblock edges. I wondered if that would give me a better contact patch while leaning. Just a thought.

Joe and Gene: Did you have to tie up the fender well due to the extra width of the CT? It appears to me that I have plenty of height.

Thanks for the site listing several other darksiders and tire information links/information. I was not able to locate the Rev/mile on the OEM Dunlop. I was curious about that bit of trivia!

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