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Do I go through the brain damage of figuring out why my shift indicator and the neutral light don't work, or just live with it. I have read through many forums, and I get the "END" on the dsplay when turning the power on. Shifting is fine, jst no light and no position indicator. Ride or turn wrenches??

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2001 Shadow Tourer VT1100T (sold it, very sad day)
1982 Goldwing interstate (completed restoration, sold)
1998 Valkyrie Standard (sold, so sad)
1982 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
1987 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
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1986 Magna V65
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Did you try cleaning the gear switch connector, which should be @ 2/3 way up right front frame vertical leg near the radiator, the wire comes out of the front trans cover, pull the connector apart and clean w/electrical contact cleaner, spray a shot on it and put it together several times to clean connector spraying each time, repeat several times.

Have you had the front trans cover off? Maybe if so, it didn't get back together in the slotted post.
Or it could be from the oil not being changed on schedule and crud got into the gear position switch?
Basically we need more info, history of your bike.

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Here's what I know. Bought this little gem from my neighbor in August. Drove by his house on a Saturday afternoon, and he had a Goldwing sitting on a trailer by the road with a sign "$800 Doesn't Run". I turned to my wife and said "that could be a lot f fun". She enthusiastically agreed, but apparently she didn't see the "doesnt run" which was hand-written across the bottom... Took three weeks for that bruise to go away. Long story short, it had been sitting under his deck for six years, he had it for nine, put 600 miles on it (37k on the odometer). Before that, it had been a local pastor's "loaner", ad before that, who knows. This bike could be the poster boy for "neglect". I doubt the front engine over has ever been off. The bike was absolutely covered in grime when I got it. I pulled all the tupperware except the fairing, rebuilt the carbs, put on new filters (the fuel filter may have been original), plugs, lights, cleaned up lots of wires and torn jackets. When I drained the oil, it was very dirty, and heavily diluted with gasoline. The mufflers were full of gas when I pulled them off. Most of the handle bar switches didn't work (including an intermittent starter switch), replaced the horns, retapped many screw holes, got the radio, CB and air compressor working, and scrubbed every square inch of its considerable quantity of chrome with steel wool.

Now, she runs like a sewing machine, has power out the wazoo, is a beautiful burgundy, sparkles when the sun hits the chroe, and has no working gear position indicator or neutral light... That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

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2001 Shadow Tourer VT1100T (sold it, very sad day)
1982 Goldwing interstate (completed restoration, sold)
1998 Valkyrie Standard (sold, so sad)
1982 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
1987 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
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1998 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1986 Magna V65
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Good Resto! That's great that it's running so good for you too.
I had fun with mine like that, even had to remove the metal brake lines as they as well as the rubber lines were plugged solid with hardened brake fluid.
The gas in your oil and mufflers was from the petcock being left on and there being something if the float valve(s) sicking them open and so the gas was siphoned into the cylinders, filling them which is Hydrolock, and drained past the rings into the oil, as well as flowed out the open exhaust valves into the mufflers. If one were to try and turn the bike over while Hydrolocked the rods and valves can bend from the direct effect of zero compression area in the cylinder(s), the small amount of gas that in normally in the cylinders during combustion cycle is small compared to the area in the cylinders, which when filled w/gas leaves no room for compression of the gas, so something will give, ie: rods and/or valves. If you have a puddle of gas under the bike, be sure and pull the spark plugs out and purge the gas out of the cylinders by cranking it over.

Back to your question on gear/neutral indicator. On the neutral, did you check the bulb on the dash? Are all the connectors hooked back up? Can you do w/o the neutral indicator, yes. Many times mine doesn't come on all the time.
The gear position isn't really necessary either, but if it's from gunk, gas in the oil, you could put a treatment of MMO or Seafoam in you oil and drive it very easy for 100-300 miles to flush it all out and once you get back give it a little time to cool so you don't get burned and then change the oil and filter.
Use Delo400 15w40 oil if you aren't already, that's what most find to work well in the wings, better shifting and good for the wet clutch plates and the cost is only @$13.00/gal.

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-1999 GL1500 SE(@57k)(totaled by cagger @105,000) Feb 2013
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-75 CB750K Blue(new) 9,000 mi Before cousin totaled it.
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Ok, gonna give that try. I spent about half hour today,, and couldn't figure out how to get the bottom fairing cover off. Is that the circular metal cover up underneath the fairing, beween the fork heads, or have I mssed something?

1983 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, daily rider)
2001 Shadow Tourer VT1100T (sold it, very sad day)
1982 Goldwing interstate (completed restoration, sold)
1998 Valkyrie Standard (sold, so sad)
1982 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
1987 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
2002 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1998 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1986 Magna V65
1885 Saber V65
1978 CB750
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Ok, gonna give that try. I spent about half hour today,, and couldn't figure out how to get the bottom fairing cover off. Is that the circular metal cover up underneath the fairing, beween the fork heads, or have I mssed something?

1983 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, daily rider)
2001 Shadow Tourer VT1100T (sold it, very sad day)
1982 Goldwing interstate (completed restoration, sold)
1998 Valkyrie Standard (sold, so sad)
1982 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
1987 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
2002 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1998 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1986 Magna V65
1885 Saber V65
1978 CB750
1972 Yamaha TX650
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I would go with cleaning the connector first, as suggested, its the side cover you need to remove. move around to right side near the crash engine guard, you will see where the bottom fairing cover is screwed on.

If cleaning the switch,doesn't work, then removing the front cover to check the tab is probably the next step.

if you remove the front cover you will need to replace all the seals (9) and while you are there, the water pump as well.

Robbie,

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Ok, wasnt sure if "lower" fairing cover is an interchangable term with "bottom" fairing cover. Seems to be. I'll give that a whack tomorrow evening...

1983 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, daily rider)
2001 Shadow Tourer VT1100T (sold it, very sad day)
1982 Goldwing interstate (completed restoration, sold)
1998 Valkyrie Standard (sold, so sad)
1982 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
1987 Goldwing Aspencade (completed restoration, sold)
2002 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1998 Shadow Spirit VT1100
1986 Magna V65
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1978 CB750
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I only have an ETM for the 86 but it should be similar for the 87. The gearshift sensor provides a ground for the instrument panel for gear position and neutral indication. The first connector that I see in the etm is c71 (black, 6 wire connector)located behind left fork forward of voltage regulator.You can disconnect connector and ground each wire to test. Remember you will be grounding the wires that go to the instrument panel which should be the female side of the connector, not the male side that runs to the sensor. Grounding the wires should result in the following indications:

Yellow wire =1st gear

Lt/Grn wire = Neutral

Black/Yellow = 2nd gear

Wht/Blue = 3rd gear

Red/Wht =4th gear

Grn/Orange =O/D

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any luck?

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