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Unhappy I give up GL1500 HID light wiring

OK, call me names but I read a thread about wiring a relay into the headlight sytem so the lights dont come on every time with the key and the start button. The problem is I can't find the thread. If someone could point me in the right direction I would be greatful. Thanks.
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Perhaps this one: https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/...it-gl1500.html

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I just read that thread again, yes it talks about the relay but not exatly the thread I thought I read. Or if someome could explan how to wire the relay in. I'm ok with wiring but I'm no wizard so if possible keep it as simble as possible. Thanks.
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It’s not about wiring a relay into the bike to run the HID system. That will get you nowhere.

What you need to do is one of 2 things:

1) Have the HID system on a regular switch. You would be responsible got turning the lights ON and OFF yourself. You need only buy a properly rated switch – 15a @ 12vdc and wire it in line with the power that supplies the HID inverters.

2) Have the HID system on a timer. There are many timers out there. E-may has a bunch of them like this one HERE or you can go to any industrial electrical supply store or some automotive shops that install stereos and HID system and get one.

The timers are simple to install and can be usually adjusted in their delay cycle.

I have been considering a HID system for my 1500. I will take a bit different approach but it will be based on the manual switch.

One final note (to everyone)… and please don’t take offence to this, but if you are uncomfortable in wiring or really don’t understand the principals in working with electrical circuits and making PROPER electrical connections, please do yourself a favor and find someone that is. So many people damage the electrical systems in their bikes thinking that a simple fuse with prevent damage. People are always complaining that their “new to them” Wing has electrical gremlins.

Chances are good that if you don’t know where to place a timer relay or switch in a circuit, then you don’t know how to properly wire it into the circuit. Crimp on BUTT connectors are NOT the way to go. Most people don’t even know how to properly use them! You can burn your bike up or damage it beyond a reasonable cost of repair.

Hire someone to do it properly, watch them do it and learn from them. No shame it that guys!

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I have my 1800 wired so the headlights come on when the engine gets oil pressure but it is a matter of changing 1 wire. A 1500 is a different matter, it can still be done that way but requires a normally closed relay and some wiring. Be patient and I'll try to help you out with it this evening.

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Alitte back ground. I installed the plug and play HIDS kit bought from cycle max. I would like to add the timer relay to the headlight curcit. I asked the question so maybe someone has done the leg work for me, I can do all the wire connections. But I'm always looking for the best and safest way of doing any job. Thanks.
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Mr Magic Fingers will have to help you with that, I know nothing about a timer relay.

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Hid

The HID usually call for a separate power supply for the ballasts and use the existing headlight circuit only to trigger the power on. I ran the ballast power cable to my EC expansion fuse panel. This panel also supplies heated gear, accessory outlets, air horn and some LED lights. The panel was set up with a relay fired from the accessory terminal on the stock fuse block so off when key is off. I added a manual switch to this accessory lead; very little amperage draw. I check that it's off before starting and then turn it on once she fires up. Less HID arcs as well as less load on start.

I thought about the relay on oil pressure, or some other auto trigger but decided to keep it simple.

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OKÖ Itís 5am and I am drawing this block diagram by hand without the aid of coffee quickly before I head out the door. Please excuse any errors or omissions. Itís a block diagram to convey a concept not instructions on how to do it. I canít provide instructions on how to do it as I am not there to see what you exactly have and wires involved. This is just a theory of operation.

In theory, this is what has to happen. If you canít follow it from here then I would say to have someone knowledgeable do it for you. Save you time, your money and your bike.


#1 Existing headlights.

#2 Typically the wire harness that goes to your headlights are plugged into the ballasts for the new HID system. Thatís how it gets itís Hi/Lo beam switching. Note the dotted lines.

#3 Your HID ballasts.

#4 The HID bulbs

#5 The ballast gets its operation power via a fuse that would normally go to you ignition switch or a switched ACC circuit. (See #7ís dotted lines.)

#6 I would install a Time Delay On timer instead of going to the ignition switch or switched ACC circuit. In this configuration, when the key of the bike is in the RUN position, it activates the TDO timer to whatever you have it set for and then will provide the power to your HID system. This way it will not try to ignite the HID system every time the ignition switch to set to RUN for a few seconds before the timer times out and provides power to the ballasts

#7 This is how it would typically be wired.


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Thanks for the reply. Will get what I need and let you know how it went. Thanks again.
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