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So is the TC-W3 good to use in chainsaws etc.. that are just normal air cooled 2 cycle? I never tried it in those as it's supposed to be for Water Cooled Outboard 2cycles I think it said. I still been using the over priced big name 2cycle oil in the chainsaw. Cost is not so important as I don't use that much of it, but I never have it when needed or can't find where I put the extra bottles. LOL
It would be handy to just use 1 oil for all the engines.

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This seems like a win win product. Smoother running engine and 3MPG more in mileage. If you put in 5 gallons per fill up that would be 15 miles more per tank. Two oz per tank is 64 tanks per gallon and that gives 960 more miles for only $12.00 plus the smooth engine. How long will it take to use 64 tanks of gas? At 43 MPG and 5 gallons per tank that's 215 miles per tank. At 64 tanks per gallon of product that's 13,760 miles. I would think that would be a really good riding season or for some of us two really good riding seasons. Sorry about the boring post, as you can tell I don't have a lot to do today so I thought I would play with the numbers for a while. By the way, I'll also be looking to pick up a gallon to give it a try. I have always tracked my gas mileage so if I see an improvement it should show up within a few tanks.
Cool, I never really did all the math up.

960 more miles / 43mpg = 22.33 gals of gas not bought!
22.33gals x $2.50 = $55.83 savings, - $13 for oil = $42.83 savings
Currant prices above for my area now for gas.

I was paying $3.75-$4 gal for gas before it came down.
22.33 x $3.75 = $83.74 savings - $13 for oil = $70.74 savings

So when price of gas was higher and I was running the TC-W3 all the time I saved enough to buy my new front tire before it needed changed!
A FREE new front tire is nice to have!

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sooooooo are you going to go back to using it all the time again???? Use it long enough and you can get another rear tire. FREE!

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I've been using the TCW-3 oil and Seafoam in every tank for a couple of years, now. Can't say I see an increase in mileage, but I figure it can't hurt regarding fuel pump lubrication, rust preventative for the tank, and upper cylinder lube. The Seafoam I started using to keep the carbs clean. I had a idle speed fluctuation when I first got the bike. Cleared it with Seafoam, but it came back a short while later. Started using the Seafoam in every tank, 3oz. or so, and no problems since. Seems to me the bike did seem a little smoother with the oil addition, but it's been so long now, I can't tell the difference. I also use non-ethanol gas whenever possible, which is most of the time. Problems with 2-stroke mini engines turned me against ethanol gas a long time ago.

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I am wondering what percentage or ratio would be ideal to run in the tank. The tank holds around 6 gallons. I don't think 1,2 or 3 oz. is enough to even check.
32:1 is 4 oz. per gallon.
I am starting to run 32:1 mix in ALL my equipment around the house. 4 stroke or 2 stroke. Doesn't seem to hurt. My lawnmower seems to run better with that.
But I am using regular 2 cycle mix with that. Not sure what the TWC-3 difference is. Does it measure the same? I know some oils say 50:1 ONLY.

Just trying to see what I can try on my long trip coming up. Need a few more MPG's! Just like been said. I was 36-42 Nothing consistent with every tank.
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My chain saw states 2 oz per gallon, and so far, it has made 3 seasons...

When I worked on the county road crew, we used 2 oz per gallon in all of the Stihl brand weed eaters.

For the Goldwings, I think 2 oz per tank is enough.

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I did it for a couple years, used empty large StaBil plastic container with the measuring dispenser to add it to fuel at stops. The ratio according to all I could find was 1 OZ. TC-W3 to every 5 gallons. More returned same results, less didn't help ..... an ounce to 5 gallons seemed to be the magic ratio.
I plan to start back with it after falling off the wagon.

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sooooooo are you going to go back to using it all the time again???? Use it long enough and you can get another rear tire. FREE!
I still run it often, forget sometimes or just out, and other times I am trying to get a handle on MPG without it in set trips

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I am wondering what percentage or ratio would be ideal to run in the tank. The tank holds around 6 gallons. I don't think 1,2 or 3 oz. is enough to even check.
32:1 is 4 oz. per gallon.
I am starting to run 32:1 mix in ALL my equipment around the house. 4 stroke or 2 stroke. Doesn't seem to hurt. My lawnmower seems to run better with that.
But I am using regular 2 cycle mix with that. Not sure what the TWC-3 difference is. Does it measure the same? I know some oils say 50:1 ONLY.

Just trying to see what I can try on my long trip coming up. Need a few more MPG's! Just like been said. I was 36-42 Nothing consistent with every tank.
2oz per tank fill got me 3mpg extra.miles. Maybe 3 or 4 oz would get more extra miles, but I would not want to run too much and foul my plugs or have smoke or such.

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I am wondering what percentage or ratio would be ideal to run in the tank. The tank holds around 6 gallons. I don't think 1,2 or 3 oz. is enough to even check.
32:1 is 4 oz. per gallon.
I am starting to run 32:1 mix in ALL my equipment around the house. 4 stroke or 2 stroke. Doesn't seem to hurt. My lawnmower seems to run better with that.
But I am using regular 2 cycle mix with that. Not sure what the TWC-3 difference is. Does it measure the same? I know some oils say 50:1 ONLY.

Just trying to see what I can try on my long trip coming up. Need a few more MPG's! Just like been said. I was 36-42 Nothing consistent with every tank.
A word of caution regarding mixing ratios in 2 cycle engines, learned at the school of hard knocks. I have an 60hp Evinrude on my boat. A few years ago I failed to keep track of mixing oil when I refilled the tank. I know there were times when I would fill up on the way to the lake and couldn't remember if I added at the pump. Figuring better safe than sorry, I added it at the lake. It finally caught up with me when the motor dropped a cylinder while pulling tubes. I figured I had mixed it too rich and fouled a plug. Pulled the tubes in and headed for the launch. I thought maybe running it full throttle would clean it out, and I ended up seizing the engine. After having it rebuilt the mechanic explained that he sees more motors seized with too rich oil/gas ratios than motors run without oil. The carb passages on mine clogged up and without the fuel mixture going in, one of the cylinders ran dry and seized up.



$1200 lesson learned, I now pay close attention to the mixing ratio. I use a 5 gallon can for my 50:1 equipment and when it's getting low enough that I'm not sure I'll have enough to finish the day, I pour the contents into my vehicle so I can make sure the new fuel has exactly a 50:1 ratio. Never had a problem this way and I figure running a little 2 cycle oil in the car is kind of a treat.

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