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Dave- wouldn't any oil external to the cartridge shock be for cooling that cartridge?
The constant movement it goes thru creates heat....outside oil would extract said heat, and keep any visible springs happily cooled too?


I suppose so but it still has nothing to do with the damping rate.

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IMO, the forks will never have enough action to make the OIL HOT...

that would be the equivalent of riding down a railroad track across all of the cross ties.

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I removed the brace this morning. The forks seem to have a high degree of stickion. I can hear the binding. Contacting cyclemax for a replacement set. Removing the washers for the ADM while in there this time. If this is the normal ride for PMT then out they go. Traxxion has to be the answer. Expensive!
I have only ridden two 1800s besides the one I have now....

the 1st one was a bone stock rental ride back in 2006.

the 2nd one is DaveO430's current 1800 and i can't recall how the forks felt. Only got about 6 miles of asphalt to try it on.... I was more interested in how the Michelin felt on the back end...

that ride convinced me I had to install a RF tire.

With all of that said, the front of my bike is totally predictable and very postive about where it is going. No pogo at all, if anything it is a bit stiff.

It has Traxxion springs front and rear... not the full Monty, but the springs and kit.

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I was reminded that it is important to leave everything loose and bounce the front end. It solved 75% of the bounce. I reinstalled the brace and found that it once again got worse. Removed it. Ordered a Kury brace that is more adjustable. Thanks folks.
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I removed the PMT inserts. I hear good things about PMTs. They didn't work for me. I had a shop in Nashua, NH prep the 20k mile forks and install Traxxion inserts. I also went to a three piece fork brace. I made one small adjustment last night and was delighted. It is truly like a new bike. All the Honda suspension garbage is gone. The bike no longer wobbles, wanders, follows ruts, bottoms on moderate bumps or wallows on stressful high speed turns. This bike tracks through turns like never before. (IMHO) I am expecting another improvement when the stones are on there once again. Dunlops seem to be lacking some of the features of the Stones. Quiet and sticky in turns the Stones are. The Dunlops, not, not, not! Mother Honda you should be ashamed of yourself for sending your flagship out with the crappy suspensions. I hope Honda's newly designed front suspension corrects the issues.
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glad you got it worked out.

I lucked out by finding a bike that the PO was very anal about his ride, the Super Brace, the Traxxion Suspension, front and rear.

and the E3 on the back? a nightmare for me, any added throttle on loose soil/sand/water and it went sideways.

no more, the Michelin RF cured that.

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glad you got it worked out.

I lucked out by finding a bike that the PO was very anal about his ride, the Super Brace, the Traxxion Suspension, front and rear.

and the E3 on the back? a nightmare for me, any added throttle on loose soil/sand/water and it went sideways.

no more, the Michelin RF cured that.
TY. All it took was 1900 with me doing the labor. LOL. That includes the rear spring and hose.
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Just an update to add to all of this. Sometimes I think if it weren't for bad luck I wouldn't have any at all. I know, would you like some cheese with that wine? Sharp cheddar only. I had problems with the full front Monty. It would just bounce and not compress over small bumps. I took the forks out and at the request of Dan at Traxxion Dynamics sent them to the factory. I was informed that they found nothing wrong except for one fork was 2.5 thou out of true. They straightened it and sent the reworked pair back to me. All I can say is WOW! What a difference between their work and the shop in Nashua NH. It feels like a completely different bike. I have the handling characteristics of a sport bike with the comfort of a tourer.
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