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It was a SERVICE BULLETIN
SB 18 2003-2004 Frame Weld Recall (February 2005)
SB 17 2001-2002 Frame Weld Recall - Revised (April 2005)

Recall ID #41118 - STRUCTURE:FRAME AND MEMBERS
Recall Date
JAN 31, 2005
Motorcycle Affected
2004 HONDA GL1800A

Summary
ON SOME MOTORCYCLES, CERTAIN FRAME WELDS DO NOT MEET MANUFACTURING SPECIFICATIONS. HIGH LOADS CREATED WHEN RIDING ON ROUGH ROAD SURFACES OR THROUGH POTHOLES CAN CAUSE THE AFFECTED WELDS TO CRACK.

Consequence
THE WELDED AREA COULD BREAK, RESULTING IN REAR SUSPENSION COLLAPSE OR LOWER CROSS MEMBER SEPARATION, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.

Remedy
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND, IF NECESSARY, REINFORCE THE WELDS ON 2001-2002 MOTORCYCLES FREE OF CHARGE. ON 2003-2004 MOTORCYCLES, THE UNITS WILL BE REPAIRED, NO INSPECTION WILL BE NECESSARY. THE RECALL BEGAN ON FEBRUARY 9, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-866-784-1870.

Potential Motorcycles Affected
34919

Notes
HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.) P66

Read more: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/mo...#ixzz3shWzIctf

There was more of a problem than just the recall spots Honda re welded. Some were cracking in places that Honda did not include in the recheck.. Several cracked behind the passenger foot rest, 1 that I know of even cracked on the cross member under the seat.
I loved my 02 and the frame was re welded under the recall but that thought was always in the back of my mind, so I sold it and bought an 08.


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The 1800 wing was plagued with several problems from 01 to 06. BMW was jumping way ahead of Honda with their touring bikes and Honda just wanted to get back in the marked and put the bike out before it was fully developed, IMHO
SB 19 2006 Airbag CB Radio Squeal (December 2006)
SB 18 2003-2004 Frame Weld Recall (February 2005)
SB 17 2001-2002 Frame Weld Recall - Revised (April 2005)
SB 16 2002-2004 LBS PCV Leakage Recall (February 2005)
SB 15 2001-2008 Trunk Opener Unit - Revised (October 2007)
SL 14 Audo Component Exchange/Repair (June 2005)
SB 14 2002-2003 Frame Weld Recall (September 2003)
SB 13 2001-2003 ECM Replacement-Cooling Improvement (June 2003)
SB 12 2002-2003 Bank Angle Sensor Mounting Screws Recall (December 2002)
SB 11 2001-2003 CD Changer Replacement - Revised (November 2007)
SB 10 2001-2002 CB Radio Replacement (January 2002)
SB 9 2001-2002 Speed Sensor Wire Clamp (December 2001)
SB 8 2001 Speedometer Repair (December 2001)
SB 7 2001 Oxygen Sensor Replacement (October 2001)
SB 6 2001-2002 Rear Tire Inspection (October 2001)
SB 5 2002 Reverse Cable Adjustment (September 2001)
SB 4 2001 Radio Muting Improvement (June 2001)
SB 3 2001 Crankshaft Pulse Rotor Recall (May 2001)
SB 2 2001 Engine Stop Switch Recall (May 2001)
SB 1 2001 Coolant Temperature Guage (December 2000)


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Yep a trike kit could or would put extra stress on the frame which Honda didn't design for.
Maybe you could explain exactly how "extra stress" happens with the addition of a trike conversion????
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Wonder why my search didn't turn up the 03-04 recall?

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There were some very late year 04's that were supposed to have gotten the new frame.There were also some built just before that,that were not included in the recall(mine).They just had a modified welding process and still retained the too thin tubes behind the passenger footrests.I checked my VIN and it wasn't included in the recall,so I thought I was OK.I've done a bit of research since and there are still 01-04's showing up with cracks so for peace of mind I wouldn't at this point buy anything older than an 05 with the new frame.

BTW Just because these frames were inspected and were OK at the time of doesn't mean they won't crack at some point in the future.

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Chris, should I be shaking in my boots?

I suspect that if my '02 had a bad weld, it would have showed up quite a while ago. The PO installed the Traxxion suspension on it many years ago and I would think that if it was going to crack, that it would have by now.

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It is after all a NTSB recall, which means pretty much forever. If Honda refused to fix one, not the dealer but mother Honda I would contact the NTSB, that is provided it is not a trike or sidecar rig which the bulletin clearly states is not their problem. John, I imagine the stiffer springs are easier on the frame than the stock ones since they don't bottom out so easily.

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Yes a safety recall goes on forever.
However if the fix requires parts that are NLA I have no idea what you or mother Honda can/will do.

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I looked at a white 2001 about a year ago. It was a private party sale. Never had seen a white one. Ran a V.I.N. check on it at the local Honda dealer. Turned out it was originaly sold to the City of San Antonio as a police bike. That explained the holes drilled here and there.
Had the oxygen sensor replacement, along with some gaskets. What really scared me was the part about "Total frame failure in 2010". Don`t know what was done about it. The guy I talked to knew nothing about it, or wasn`t saying. He had bought the bike from a Honda dealer around the time of the frame failure. Do a V.I.N. check!!!!
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