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Searching for more rear light

Here's the deal ,would like to replace rear brake/tailights on 2002 wing with out the full explanation of electrical engineering terms and braking the bank what would be a good replacement for the oem bulbs.HID or LED .any links appreciated...
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Maybe Leds, there is no such thing as HIDs for rear lights that I know of.
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Don't be tempted by the cheap Chinese stuff on eBay. Been there, done that. Most of them were not even as bright as the stock incandescent bulbs, or had a really bad light pattern. I got lucky with some, after trial and error. Keep in mind that putting LED's in on turn signals (i know you didn't mention this) will require ballast resistors (I don't recommend) or an electronic flasher, otherwise you'll get no flashing or 'hyper' flashing.

SuperBrightLEDs.com - as Dave referenced - are a good place to start, as they actually list brightness levels and field (width) of light. Most housings have reflectors designed for regular bulbs and putting LED's in may not put the reflectors to good use - making them really bright directly behind you, but not bright at all if viewed off-angle (anything other than straight behind.)
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I replaced my tail lights and turn signals on two of my bikes with Pilot brand LEDs from Walmart, also every light on my trailer. I'm real happy with the Pilot LEDs. I'm not sure if you will get brighter lights from LEDs, unless you add sockets and more lights.


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On the 1800 only 1 of the lights in the trunk is a brake light, both are 2 filament and running lights but only 1 is a brake light. You can make a jumper wire from 1 light to the other and make both of them running and brake lights. About a 10 minute job. Here is my 08 after I made the mod. Of course I also added the trunk spoiler and brake light. Also you can change the reflector at the bottom of the rear panel to a light also.


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I don't know if the "tail lights" in an 1800 are the same as a 1500, but I also replaced mine with the Pilot LED 1157 bulbs available at Walmart. The LEDs were exactly as bright as the standard bulbs, no brighter, no dimmer. Being LED, they also work a lot better than incandescent bulbs when 'flashed', like by a brake light flasher. That is due to the instantaneous ON / OFF nature of LEDs. The flashing is much more noticeable.




Walmart had them for $15 a pair. You need RED in a red light fixture.

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Tried the pilots and didn't care for them as while they are bright to look at they do not reflect out of the lens as well and were not red for red lens. The led's around the bulb do not direct much into reflector for proper reflection outward.
At wallyland the Zevo series ARE red and high output, and led's are aimed into curve of reflector.


However I prefer the Phillips Vision LED which are available in 1157 and 7443 flavors for both the 1500 and 1800 with 4 high output led aimed into reflector. http://www.usa.philips.com/c-m-li/Vision-led
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the picture of the bike is with regular bulb in top left and other 5 are LED. Center under license is the Zevos, corners are Visions
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And with brakes on after ALL leds installed
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GL1200's have even LESS light at the rear , and I once had friend rear ended on his 1100.

I used two 50 LED light strips ( JC Whitney , I think ) at about $14 ea. , coupled to the "Back off " flasher unit . One mounted high , at bottom of Top box, and one mounted low, near license plate .

They flash alternately with top box lights when brakes are applied . It looked pretty good to me.

But once , on an evening group ride , the Winger behind me rode up and said,
" Those are really , really annoying !!" ( bright, draws ones attention , etc )

.......so after THAT comment, now I think they are excellent .

I think Flashing LED's are much better than continuously burning , at least for increasing visibility .

And now that I have switched my front 55/60 watt headlight for a 30 watt HID unit.. the light bars seem to burn even brighter .

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Tried the pilots and didn't care for them as while they are bright to look at they do not reflect out of the lens as well and were not red for red lens. The led's around the bulb do not direct much into reflector for proper reflection outward.
At wallyland the Zevo series ARE red and high output, and led's are aimed into curve of reflector.


At my three Walmarts they have Pilots in white, red and orange in different bulb types. After they were in stock for a while some of the designs were changed, I got the ones with more LEDs per bulb. My 750 needed white in the brake/tail light because of the license plate light, still pretty good in the daylight.


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