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That much oil use doesn't seem excessive, considering how the bike is being used and its history.

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If the engine is using 1 quart per 5k miles, then it is entirely possible many of the higher mileage engines are doing the same. Those like myself that use rotella 15w40 or similar on a 4k mile schedule wouldn't notice some usage. I am not interested in bringing this thread sideways by converting it to a dreaded oil thread. Oil threads have run their course. Gasoline is a dirty fuel. Abrasive carbon builds with time regardless of the lubricant. I have always felt that traditional oils on a 4k schedule would prolong the cylinder bore and ring life. Whatever wear that has occurred is irreversible. Once the bore has become abrasive the damage is going to intensify. Your consumption will probably accelerate. A heavier 10w30 or a straight 30w would definitely slow usage. Other than an unneeded engine job there is nothing to worry about. Just carry extra oil and some sheets of paper to make a funnel out of. Things are always more complicated than the face value question. Think of this and other forums as think tanks. We both solve and create problems. No one is admonishing you. We sometimes are sorry the question is asked. I am sitting on a brand new K+N that will never get installed. I too think the design of their filters is not advantageous to prolong the useful life of an engine. K+N filters need cleaning and oiling. Just as easy to pop in a new factory cleaner. Those that have changed their 1800 filter know the work involved in changing their filter. The 1500 is a cake walk in comparison.
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my 1st 1500 was a '94SE that I bought with high miles, it was 'very used' but the price put it within my reach.

It used "some oil", how much I don't remember now.... about a half quart maybe every 3,000 miles or so.... it was my daily transportation, no car at the time. it was always on the road, and I rode it hard like a dirt bike...

IMO, I bought it to ride hard and I did.... it screamed up mountains in 2nd and 3rd gear chasing the Ninja crotch rockets... nothing I did seemed to effect the engine at all.... it happily turned 5500-6500 RPM for hours at a time....

I rode it back and forth to San Diego down I-8 from my home in Mesa, AZ at wide open throttle, following the fastest 4 wheel thing moving.... on one of those trips, the oil light came on.... I stopped and checked the oil level... it was okay, so I just waited a couple of hours and went on my way. That oil happened to be Castrol Mineral oil, never again for me....

the Honda engines are just about nearly indestructible, as long as you keep them cooled and lubricated.

IMO, just keep a spare qt of oil with you and ride on and quit worrying about it.

I still don't like K&N but that's another subject.

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It is interesting where the oil goes. My GL1500 would sometimes smoke a bit on startup after about 210K miles but immediately stopped smoking and seems to run perfect to this day and it is close to 300K. No time to swap it as I am headed out in early March to start the rally season. Jacksonville Pizza Party in March, Moonshine in April, 50CC The Hard way in May, Butt Lite in June/July, Highway to Hell in August (back to Mexico), Park'n Ride in Oct. I need 10-12 certificate rides in there somewhere. I hope the Honda holds up to another 50K year. Sit here, twist that.

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. Those that have changed their 1800 filter know the work involved in changing their filter. The 1500 is a cake walk in comparison.
Truer words never written. The first time I swapped the air cleaner (for the dreaded K&N) on the GL1800 I was cussing Honda for an hour. Now all my bolts are marked and it is not such a big deal. I actually recharge it after every other oil change.

The alternator is another part that is a 15-minute job on a GL1500 and a pain in the ass on the GL1800.

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The alternator is another part that is a 15-minute job on a GL1500 and a pain in the ass on the GL1800.

with the proper tools, the 1800 alternator can be removed in 20 minutes, I have done it, and I have the tools.


http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/Dr...20Tools?sort=3

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Tell me more. I carry a DB Electrics alternator and I have seen one changed with more traditional tools (6in socket extension, etc). tell me more about these tools and the process. Some pictures in-action would be great and a source for the tools.

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here are my videos





the maker is an aircraft mechanic down in Louisiana

here is his business card

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File Type: pdf GL1800 Alternator Tool Bsns Card.pdf (48.2 KB, 5 views)

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here are my videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bm5OhU1aFE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JLzzFD4Njw


the maker is an aircraft mechanic down in Louisiana

here is his business card

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Gearwrench makes an adjustable pivoting head wrench that is quite similar in design to the custom fab job. I love the ingenuity generated by necessity.
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