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Picked up an 1800!

Picked up a 2008 GL1800 in black with comfort and navi. It has the MBL Innovations Bagger Kit (http://www.mblinnovations.com/ - 4th picture in is a picture of my bike) on it (but I have the trunk, so I can convert it back fairly easily for trips where I need the extra storage.)

It has 86,000miles on in (about 138,000KM). The previous owner had installed the progressive monotube gas charged cartridge fork conversion, 'wave' brake rotors, Rich's seat (plus stock one), hitch, plus a bunch of other upgrades.

My understanding is that not all 1800's came with a CB (even though they have the CB controls) - is this correct? This one doesn't seem to have the CB installed - too bad.

I'm looking for a rider backrest - I usually shop at Cyclemax, but I see 6 or more backrests. I've heard opinions that the Utopia is the best, but am hesitant to cut the (heated) seat - don't want to damage the heating wires etc. Any thoughts/recommendations?

Something even more rare would be a passenger backrest (for when I don't have the trunk installed) - I'll try MBL, but wondering if anybody has any other suggestions? Wonder if one designed for the F6B would work?

Now, I just have to sell the 1500's (I have two 97's), my FZR1000 and my KLX250S. Wife wants me to sell the Ninja 650 as well, but I'm going to try to hold onto that one.
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Bikes I've owned since June, 2013:
Since sold:11 CBR250R, 89 ZG1000, 92 Ninja 500, 85 V45 Magna, 84 DT200, 82 Virago 750, 92 Virago 1100, 04 Kawasaki ZZR250, 07 Vstrom 650 ABS, 88 GL1500, 14 Ninja 300, 86 V65 Magna, 96 VLX600, 08 WR250X, 09 KLX250S, 87 FZR1000, 14 Ninja 650, plus some more...
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2008 GL1800 with bagger kit
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Nice Bike! It is a sports bike compared to the 1500. The CB is in the trunk. From the 4th photo, the trunk has the CB antenna, so I would say you have it, you just need to get it out of the trunk. I have a Utopia on my 2012 that is cut through the seat. I did not install it, but my heated seats work fine.

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Nice Bike! It is a sports bike compared to the 1500. The CB is in the trunk. From the 4th photo, the trunk has the CB antenna, so I would say you have it, you just need to get it out of the trunk. I have a Utopia on my 2012 that is cut through the seat. I did not install it, but my heated seats work fine.

Enjoy!
I didn't find the CB in the trunk. Currently, the Nav system (which is normally in the trunk, I assume) is in the back under the rear cover from the bagger kit, along with the J&M MP3 player, but no CB. Am I correct that the CB was an option, or should it have a CB as stock equipment?

The trunk currently has the CB and Radio antenna mount holes filled with black rubber plugs. I'd emailed the previous owner about the antennas (they weren't in the stuff he gave me), but haven't heard back yet.

He also gave me a spare set of stock mufflers, plus a set of 'performance' mufflers (you can see straight through them... I'll have to try them out), but they are a little rusty on the inner area on the outside - I should be able to clean that up.

Also, apparently, the MBL bagger kit requires cutting the rear sub-frame - he didn't like that, so he picked up a complete rear sub-frame - so when putting the trunk back on, you have to remove the saddlebags and the (cut) sub-frame and replace it with the complete sub-frame - a bunch of work, but better than having a chopper rear sub-frame holding the trunk on. I haven't had it apart yet to see how it works, though.

Bikes I've owned since June, 2013:
Since sold:11 CBR250R, 89 ZG1000, 92 Ninja 500, 85 V45 Magna, 84 DT200, 82 Virago 750, 92 Virago 1100, 04 Kawasaki ZZR250, 07 Vstrom 650 ABS, 88 GL1500, 14 Ninja 300, 86 V65 Magna, 96 VLX600, 08 WR250X, 09 KLX250S, 87 FZR1000, 14 Ninja 650, plus some more...
Current rides:
2010 Husqvarna TE250
2015 Kawasaki Ninja 650
2008 GL1800 with bagger kit
1997 GL1500SE
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on the heated seat question, I installed a Utopia backrest on my 1800 and it has a heated seat.

no problems is you work out the install methods in your head before you start.
I wrote up a long article showing how to get it done, with pictures showing the angles to hold the knife blade.

once you do it, you can say it is 'not hard', but if you have not done it, it is not all that apparent as to how to go about it without ruining something.

a search for my username and Utopia Backrest should pull up my thread.
if not, install the bookmarks index found on the General Forum and then goto
Motorycycles/Backrests

or Motorycles/gl1800/backrests

it will be in one of those two places.

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Turn on the CB, if you have one it will come on, if you don't have one nothing will happen. The bike came stock with the CB controls but not the CB. The NAVI unit is attached to the front (part nearest to the passenger) so with the trunk off they would have to relocate it. Does the NAVI work?


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Turn on the CB, if you have one it will come on, if you don't have one nothing will happen. The bike came stock with the CB controls but not the CB. The NAVI unit is attached to the front (part nearest to the passenger) so with the trunk off they would have to relocate it. Does the NAVI work?
Yes, Navi works - Removed the back 'cover' (where the trunk would be) and found the MP3 player and the Navi, but no CB - I wasn't sure if the CB would have been in the trunk or front fairing (like the 1500, although less obvious than the 1500.)

If I press the CB button, I don't get a CB display (like I do for radio, Navi) on the center display. So, it must not have one. Too bad. I use a Sena comm, so I don't use the Honda intercom setup, so the CB ends up being a receive only thing for me, but can be handy at times. Part of the reason I ask is that without the trunk, there's no CB Antenna, so I wasn't sure if it was 'sensing' no antenna, but didn't think it was that smart.

Bikes I've owned since June, 2013:
Since sold:11 CBR250R, 89 ZG1000, 92 Ninja 500, 85 V45 Magna, 84 DT200, 82 Virago 750, 92 Virago 1100, 04 Kawasaki ZZR250, 07 Vstrom 650 ABS, 88 GL1500, 14 Ninja 300, 86 V65 Magna, 96 VLX600, 08 WR250X, 09 KLX250S, 87 FZR1000, 14 Ninja 650, plus some more...
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2010 Husqvarna TE250
2015 Kawasaki Ninja 650
2008 GL1800 with bagger kit
1997 GL1500SE
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Here is a link to the article that John, aka AZgl1800, wrote up on his Utopia backrest install.

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/...-tell-you.html

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Great - I have that page bookmarked.

One question re the Utopia - it is easily/quickly removed? When I ride with my wife, I usually don't need/want the backrest, and I want something that can quickly be removed. I saw on cyclemax a 'quick out bar' for the utopia, which makes me think that it's not quick/easy to remove unless you spend the extra $65 on this extra.

Bikes I've owned since June, 2013:
Since sold:11 CBR250R, 89 ZG1000, 92 Ninja 500, 85 V45 Magna, 84 DT200, 82 Virago 750, 92 Virago 1100, 04 Kawasaki ZZR250, 07 Vstrom 650 ABS, 88 GL1500, 14 Ninja 300, 86 V65 Magna, 96 VLX600, 08 WR250X, 09 KLX250S, 87 FZR1000, 14 Ninja 650, plus some more...
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2008 GL1800 with bagger kit
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Utopia has two versions of the backrest mount.

One has a removable feature. You just lift it up and out when you don't want it.

I chose the solid, folding down mount, as I only ride solo and it was cheaper.

Both install identically, and the other can be inserted in 15 minutes if you change your mind.

It also has a very smooth ability to adjust to the exact amount of back pressure you want.
ie, you can make it lean way back like a recliner if you want....
it is a bolt with a locking nut that controls the angle of the backrest.

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Did all those bikes you brought back to life over the last 3 years- pay for this new baby?
Does it stop here? or is there an Ultimate Bike you are working towards?

You certainly have the Wing background after 2, 1500 resto and iirc resto-mod to current technology... suspension wise

Those should go quick on the sale- you did all the repairs right = through consultations on here. The Progressives were worth it eh~
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