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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-31-2016, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
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removing relay # 3

I was out for a ride a few days ago... after a stop,,, my scoot would not start... No headlight some of the front instrument lights did not work... Left side in general... After getting scoot home,,, got it started and put it in the garage... Tried to restart it and not go... Same problem...
I did some research and found out it was the 3rd relay that was giving me problems... I took off the left side cover and took the cover off the fuses to check them again... all OK... The article mention relays to the right of the fuse panel... I unbolted the fuse strip and tried to get the cover off... Hard but I got it off and walla,,, a bunch of relays... found # 3 but how do you get the relays out... Do you have to take the left side box off to get them out???
any tricks to easy removal???
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If you can fit your hand in the space and grasp the relay you should be able to extract it. You can also unloosen the bag to give you more room.


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Usually the only real fix is to replace the receptacle the relay plugs to,Dave4030 sent me a good one to repair mine,left like it is it gets worse,the plug is melted.

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The #3 relay did not cause it not to start.

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I think Dave is wrong- the #3 relay causes all the problems you have. If the bike is already running, the headlight goes off, gauges go off, and once you turn off the engine the bike will not start. You can roll start it, but the starter motor will not work. The relay itself may be defective, but most likely it is the connections, which may be melted and failing. You may indeed have to loosen or remove the left saddlebag to get good access
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Dave is correct. Relay #6 is required to run the starter and the ignition system. Not relay #3. See below. When you say no headlights is that all the time or do they go out when you push the start button? That is normal.
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When I turn the switch to the on position, I have no headlight and the left side of the instrument panel is off... no neutral light ect... When I was checking the fuses, the 4th from the bottom was out a little ways,,, I reseated the fuse and it started and all looked normal... I backed the bike in the garage and shut it off... Then I moved the car and trailer and went back to the bike... It had no headlight and would not start... I came to the forum and searched and found the 3rd relay problem which matched my problem exactly... I opened the left panel and saw the relay box and unbolted the fuse panel and finally got the cover off...
This is where I left it... I will attempt to remove the relay # 3...

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When I turn the switch to the on position, I have no headlight and the left side of the instrument panel is off... no neutral light ect... When I was checking the fuses, the 4th from the bottom was out a little ways,,, I reseated the fuse and it started and all looked normal... I backed the bike in the garage and shut it off... Then I moved the car and trailer and went back to the bike... It had no headlight and would not start... I came to the forum and searched and found the 3rd relay problem which matched my problem exactly... I opened the left panel and saw the relay box and unbolted the fuse panel and finally got the cover off...
This is where I left it... I will attempt to remove the relay # 3...
If the starter does not crank when you try to start it the problem is not going to be the #3 relay unless you have 2 problems.. Not likely.

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When I turn the switch to the on position, I have no headlight and the left side of the instrument panel is off... no neutral light ect... When I was checking the fuses, the 4th from the bottom was out a little ways,,, I reseated the fuse and it started and all looked normal... I backed the bike in the garage and shut it off... Then I moved the car and trailer and went back to the bike... It had no headlight and would not start... I came to the forum and searched and found the 3rd relay problem which matched my problem exactly... I opened the left panel and saw the relay box and unbolted the fuse panel and finally got the cover off...
This is where I left it... I will attempt to remove the relay # 3...
When you say "would not start" do you mean it cranked but not started or it would not crank (starter turns but engine will not run)?
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I got the whole panel out and changed the relay... took the back off and no burnt wires... got it back together and it fired right up... Fricking relay... but thanks for everyones help... It is a nice feeling that I have friends out there that I have not even met... Oh well,,, another day... Going to take a test ride out to LaBelle to see if all OK... I will renew my tags while I am there and then stop at the Log Cabin BBQ restaurant for some good BBQ...
Thanks for all the help and advice...
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