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I noticed that the internal bearings have alternating large balls and small balls. The small balls seem to be about the size of the FOD I found

I looked at all the bearings and they all seem to be tight and smooth. Can't see any little balls missing, but I think there is a cover over the bearings so you can't see them anyway. Any suggestions would be great
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Thanks for all the help. I will look at Everett powersports

I plan to go through everything, especially both the oil pumps before I put it back in. Take my time, make sure everything is right and put it back together carefully.



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Did you figure out where that FOD come from?
I bought my rings from everett_powersports on ebay. He sold out. I got STD size.


While you are down there, replace main chain tensioner with GL1200. Those have spring loaded, and will quiet the noise on idle. Also you will have to modify the trough
Check out John : http://www.wingovations.com/fitting-...ain/4584942275


Make sure the main chain is still reusable.
Rebuild the scavenger pump. Again, John explained that too.


This is how to select the main and con-rod bearings
http://www.wingovations.com/choosing...ngs/4588152247


He can hook you up with some piston rings as well.
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I noticed that the internal bearings have alternating large balls and small balls. The small balls seem to be about the size of the FOD I found

I looked at all the bearings and they all seem to be tight and smooth. Can't see any little balls missing, but I think there is a cover over the bearings so you can't see them anyway. Any suggestions would be great
What you're calling small balls is the riveting on the beating cage used to keep the balls evenly spaced.

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Measured the main bearing clearance with plastiguage Two were .0015 and the other was .001. Limit is .003. The motor keeps looking in good shape, So I am going to stop measuring and put it back together.

I deglazed the cylinders. Very pleased on how they came out. Ordered new rings from eBay

Both halves have been cleaned and painted, see the pic. All ready for the parts to be put back on. I will start tomorrow, Wanted the paint to cure overnight
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I was putting the heads back together tonight, While torquing the rocker frame back on (220 in lb) I started feeling a few of the bolts stretch. One of them failed, I was lucky enough to stop before it broke so I didn't have to fish it out of the whole. I took it out in one piece. Luckily I can still buy them from Honda, so I am going to replace all 12

Any thoughts about the torque on those bolts, 220 in lb. (18 ft lb ) sure doesn't seem like enough to stretch those bolts.

If you look real close you can see the threads separating at the very top of the thread
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Measured the main bearing clearance with plastiguage Two were .0015 and the other was .001. Limit is .003. The motor keeps looking in good shape, So I am going to stop measuring and put it back together.

I deglazed the cylinders. Very pleased on how they came out. Ordered new rings from eBay

Both halves have been cleaned and painted, see the pic. All ready for the parts to be put back on. I will start tomorrow, Wanted the paint to cure overnight
Nice painting job. Did you do it yourself? What kind spray did you use?

You have to oil the threads and the bottom of the heads.
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Nice painting job. Did you do it yourself? What kind spray did you use?

You have to oil the threads and the bottom of the heads.
Duplicolor engine enamel Aluminum DE1615

I had moly on the threads when I put them in.
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I had moly on the threads when I put them in.
No, no, the Moly greasing only applies to the head bolts. The rocker holder bolts go in dry. That is why you stretched the bolt. With them greased you would have to tighten WAY too much to get to that torque reading.


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Broken bolts suck!

I started putting everything back together again. Cleaned checked and put back the two oil pumps. Broke another stud on the main oil pump. Lucky again, the whole bolt came out in one piece. No fishing the broken piece out This time with my torque wrench set to 150 inch pounds. What? Ok. Time to back away and figure out what is going on. My 40 year old torque wrench is failing me. I took it all apart, hardened grease and sticky parts, cleaned it and compared it to my foot pound wrench, They both read the same at 10 and 20 foot pounds. Tried it on the pump again and it felt MUCH better.

So I had to order some more studs for the oil pump. I put the lower transmission back in and the shifter forks.
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