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I put HID lights on my 1500 a couple of years ago. To me the biggest difference is the daytime visibility. At night the do light up the ditches better but the don't seem to light up the road an farther in front of me than the oem. I added a delayed on relay so I could start the bike before the headlights come on. So far I've had no issues.
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Don't HID's get their power directly from their own wire (direct to batt)? the other wires just carry the signal to turn them on/high/low beams? even then, the power wire I have on my 55w HID, that I have yet to mount, doesn't seem to be that "BIG" of a wire so it shouldn't carry that much current. if the 35w HID's use less juice than the factory bulbs.. then the 55watt bulbs should use abt the same? again since they get their own juice (from battery) then it wouldn't matter abt current draw. I read somewhere that the 55's don't put out that much light than the 35 watts... and that was on a HID website that doesn't sell the 55 watts because of ..."issues" with the 55 watts? and the HEAT??? it is a ARC, like welding so there is going to be HEAT issue for the lens/reflector?
If you put a relay in, so the headlight wire just triggers the relay, and then the relay closes the circuit between the battery and the HID ballasts, then the draw on the stock headlight wiring will be minimal (it's only triggering the relay). If, however, you don't put a relay in and use the stock headlight wiring to power the HID ballasts, you're likely to have problems.

HID's use less power than halogens when they're 'on', but when they first fire up, there's a pretty significant current draw in order to 'ignite' the plasma in the bulb - why a lot of people put delays on, so the headlights don't turn on until 5-10 seconds after the bike starts - some use the oil pressure switch to trigger this (another relay), so once the oil light goes out, it closes the circuit and the HID will ignite, rather than trying to ignite when you turn the ignition ON, then again after you release the starter button. That initial ignition (turning on) I understand is the hardest on the HID ballasts.

I've read recommendations against the 55W bulbs - my understanding is that they put out MORE heat than many headlight housings are designed for (and the 35W HID's put out less.)
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I seldom ride at night either. Every once in a while I get caught up in something and lose track of time and it gets late. I hate the deer in Wisconsin and Michigan. They are so tame I have stopped the bike and hollered at them to get out of the way. They usually just raise their heads and stick out their tongues at me.
Well that what happens when you live in the cheese-head state deer get lazy because of the grasslands the cows graze on. LOL But to be honest with you they are worse in the Chicago area nothing to cull the herds, they fear nothing. This was what I used to upgrade my 1500 to HID quick simple and plug and play. I used 4300K am happy with it, like riding in daylight after dark.
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I would like to install HID's as a winter project. Someone said that Dave 0430 knows of a 35 watt kit that is reasonably priced and I think it is a plug and play, at least I hope. Dave or anyone else know the name of the kit and where to find it on e bay ? Thanks
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I would like to install HID's as a winter project. Someone said that Dave 0430 knows of a 35 watt kit that is reasonably priced and I think it is a plug and play, at least I hope. Dave or anyone else know the name of the kit and where to find it on e bay ? Thanks
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Something that keeps getting ignored with these threads is how the HIDs and LEDs blind oncoming traffic. It's been my experience that they all do that, except the OEM configurations in cars, and even they can be borderline.

You know, a blind driver is a bad thing.

Until the aftermarket systems have hi/low capability and include reflectors and lenses, I really think they should be outlawed. And, in reality, most of the systems sold have the caveat "Off Road Only" somewhere in their description, because they are illegal in many states and countries.

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Something that keeps getting ignored with these threads is how the HIDs and LEDs blind oncoming traffic. It's been my experience that they all do that, except the OEM configurations in cars, and even they can be borderline.

You know, a blind driver is a bad thing.

Until the aftermarket systems have hi/low capability and include reflectors and lenses, I really think they should be outlawed. And, in reality, most of the systems sold have the caveat "Off Road Only" somewhere in their description, because they are illegal in many states and countries.
It's focus, many just put them in and don't change the aim of the lights which usually needs to be done. I've been running HIDs for 8 years and used to ride at night quite a but and never have been bright lighted except in daylight. Even the old incandescent headlights would blind other drivers if not aimed right.

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Something that keeps getting ignored with these threads is how the HIDs and LEDs blind oncoming traffic. It's been my experience that they all do that, except the OEM configurations in cars, and even they can be borderline.

You know, a blind driver is a bad thing.

Until the aftermarket systems have hi/low capability and include reflectors and lenses, I really think they should be outlawed. And, in reality, most of the systems sold have the caveat "Off Road Only" somewhere in their description, because they are illegal in many states and countries.
In my opinion, the only HID setups that work really well are the "projector beam" setups. I have projectors in my car (2014 Altima), but it came stock with Halogens, so I put an HID kit in it and it works well. The Projectors have a really sharp light 'cut-off'. In my 2015 Ninja 650, I did a projector retrofit - got aftermarket Projectors, plus the HID bulbs and ballasts - you heat up the lenses to melt the glue and take the lenses off the headlight assembly, remove the stock reflectors and put in the projectors. The light output is fantastic, and of course it had a razor-sharp cut off, so once they're aimed right, there's no 'light splay' blinding oncoming drivers. I have HID's in my GL1800, but in the stock headlight reflectors - they're ok, but not as good, I think, as a projector retrofit would be. One day, I might tackle that.

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i've had xenon on one of my bikes, now i am running LEDd bulbs, the light output you get is greater than the hid xenon.
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