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Not making fun of anything ..... but that looks almost like something Rube Goldberg would have come up with. Maybe someone used a compression ferrule with the idea it would mash into a sealing shape but it ain't looking like some thing I'd have in my brake lines.

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I think what you need is very special and to get that exact thing you might need to know the brand of the line etc. Might be very hard to find. You asked if anyone had an idea of what it might be called. I have an idea??? I bet it is called either an insert or adapter. "So I think you need an adapter/insert bubble flare to inverted flare." (SAE flare) Adapts from a bubble flare and makes it accept a inverted flare. (SAE flare) You might be able to go to a local autoparts store and buy a conventional adapter to do the same thing. It won't be near as cute but you might be able to get it to work. I know Dorman makes tons of various sizes and configurations. IF you can find a knowledgeable assistant (good luck on a $2 purchase) I think it might be able to be done. The more knowledge you have walking in the door the better off you will be. You know it will be a bubble (male) to inverted flare (female) adapter. The bubble on the male end. Inverted on the female end. That is the configuration. But you will also need to know the size and thread pitch. You will have to measure that. So when you walk in the door you can say "I need a brake line adapter. It is male bubble flare by female inverted (SAE) flare. The male end is M10 by 1. (that means 10 mm and 1 thread is 1 mm. M10-1) Also the female end is also M10-1." Just an example and you will have to do some work to get your specs. It will look something like this.
Hope you can find the original insert !!!!!!????????

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Not making fun of anything ..... but that looks almost like something Rube Goldberg would have come up with. Maybe someone used a compression ferrule with the idea it would mash into a sealing shape but it ain't looking like some thing I'd have in my brake lines.
Where is your sense of adventure? I bet it works fine!
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Not making fun of anything ..... but that looks almost like something Rube Goldberg would have come up with. Maybe someone used a compression ferrule with the idea it would mash into a sealing shape but it ain't looking like some thing I'd have in my brake lines.
Bwahahaha. Honestly it seems entirely too perfectly shaped to be accidental, and I'm going to guess that under pressure it does seal well as well as providing a flare seat. It does seem to be a specialized insert for this sort of thing. I'm going to a hydraulics/pneumatics place today, maybe they can help me out. Somehow I don't have a lot of faith in my local Autozone/NAPA type places for this.

Going to try the Fremont location for these guys:

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More I look at the picture ..... more I think it is just a mashed to shape - originally barrel shaped - compression sleeve (likely 3/16") that was used in the end of a double flare to address the bubble flare seating.

IF that's what it was, if that thing get's mashed sideways .... it's gonna act like a plug or restrictor.


I said "if".

My NAPA has a machine shop, they make hoses and stock all kinds of fittings and just about everyone there has been there 20-30 years ..... the delivery guy is maybe 6 years on. I am part time at Advance, we have some fittings, but no where near what the Napa store has.

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More I look at the picture ..... more I think it is just a mashed to shape - originally barrel shaped - compression sleeve (likely 3/16") that was used in the end of a double flare to address the bubble flare seating.

IF that's what it was, if that thing get's mashed sideways .... it's gonna act like a plug or restrictor.


I said "if".

My NAPA has a machine shop, they make hoses and stock all kinds of fittings and just about everyone there has been there 20-30 years ..... the delivery guy is maybe 6 years on. I am part time at Advance, we have some fittings, but no where near what the Napa store has.
Crystal, With all due respect I don't agree. I bet that is a very special adapter. I bet it is inverted on one side (to mate with the brake line) and if you flip it over it is bubble flare on the other side. (to mate with the hose) When you screw it together it all seals right up. It gives the hose manufacturer more flexibility where one hose can be used with several different configurations by just changing the insert. Kind of cool in a way. That is if you don't lose the insert. I think the OP has little or no chance at the hyd. pneumatic place. Too special. Hope he does though.
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This may seem too easy, but why not get hold of the guy you bought the hose from and ask him to send whatever adapter is missing. After all, didn't he list it as a fit for your bike?

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This may seem too easy, but why not get hold of the guy you bought the hose from and ask him to send whatever adapter is missing. After all, didn't he list it as a fit for your bike?
Sure, anyone could do that.

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This may seem too easy, but why not get hold of the guy you bought the hose from and ask him to send whatever adapter is missing. After all, didn't he list it as a fit for your bike?
That adapter is likely in the landfill or the dumpster along with the rest of the floor sweepings.
As the original poster has a decent hose company locally I would suggest he have them cut off the bubble flair fittings and crimp on inverted flair fittings. He'll lose less than an inch of hose length.
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Crystal, With all due respect I don't agree. I bet that is a very special adapter. I bet it is inverted on one side (to mate with the brake line) and if you flip it over it is bubble flare on the other side. (to mate with the hose) When you screw it together it all seals right up. It gives the hose manufacturer more flexibility where one hose can be used with several different configurations by just changing the insert. Kind of cool in a way. That is if you don't lose the insert. I think the OP has little or no chance at the hyd. pneumatic place. Too special. Hope he does though.

Well .... I did say "if" ..... but look at a tube with a inverted double flare .... and then compare side by side with a same size tube with a metric bubble flare .... and then imagine a soft brass compression sleeve maybe ..... inserted into the inverted double flare and tightened up against a seat intended for a metric bubble flare.







You may be right, it may have been or is a special adapter the likes of which I've just never seen or heard tale of yet? I looked on Google for such an adapter in images and found nothing so far.

Anyway ..... I too remain curious .....

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