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Complete the Carb Fix - Rejuvenate The Rubber Idolaters and MORE!

I went through the carburetor rack today. I discovered a method for rejuvenating the rubber on the intake runners. I was so skeptical about this, I had to make this video to show you what I did. It was simply astonishing.


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That is one Awesome video Jim.

And your expertise with the fades from one segment to the next segment, shows that this is not your first video rodeo.

I bookmarked this so we can find this single post again with ease.

Thank you so much.
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Wow, that is a great video Jim. Wish I had known about that rubber softener when I had the carbs out of my 1500 last year. Looking forward to how she runs when you make the next test ride.

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Thatís fantastic,I wonder if that could be used on the formed vacuum lines that harden up no longer available?
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Thatís fantastic,I wonder if that could be used on the formed vacuum lines that harden up no longer available?

I am thinking 'yes'

but if they have holes in them, still wont "fix them"

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I am thinking 'yes'

but if they have holes in them, still wont "fix them"
I agree with trying it. No harm no foul. I was actually considering trying to make new rubbers. There are two part room temperature vulcanizing silicone rubber available. It would take a mandrel that matches the metal part of the intake runner and carb inlet. Coat the mandrel with the silicone, wrap the coating with silicone soaked nylon (thing Ace wrap) and then cure. I believe this is how the specialty companies make custom hoses.

I posted this over on the HondaTwins.net site. There are some interesting comments.
http://www.hondatwins.net/forums/24-...isolators.html

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As posted on the other site, the Xylene stuff may work alone, and so may the diesel fuel. I do wonder if the wintergreen is to add longevity to the mix.

I have the boots off the '85, and I may "spearmint with the wintergreen".

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Jim,

just from my highly Experienced Recliner chair, I think that the Wintergreen Oil will help preserve the rubber much longer than the 3 days referenced by one poster in that thread.

Diesel oil? had not thought of that, good to know, it is cheap.

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The best deal I could find for the Wintergreen Oil is this:



Xylene was a little easier to find:



I used a Costco unsalted mixed nut jar, I think it was about 18.99. The four intake runners would fit into this jar and the quantity of rejuvenating fluid covers the rubbers.

I found a MSDS sheet for a commercial Rubber rejuvenate product that said it was 30% Methyl Salicylate (Wintergreen Oil) and 70% Xylene. The 4 oz (30%) Wintergreen plus the 70% Xylene equals about 9.4 oz. so the total is about 13.4 Oz. I used a 500ML saline bottle to mix it.

If you believe in science, predictions are based on controlled tests. Anything outside of the limits of these tests is a projection. Any conclusions based on a projection is just a hypothesis needs to be tested. I would want to see the results from using pure Xylene or diesel oil. There are some interesting youTube videos about this, but I didn't see anything about Xylene or diesel.

BTW- John I use CyberLink PowerDirector 13 for my videos. It is a steep learning curve. Over the two years I have had it I have learned to trim clips, link them together, do a title and make transitions. There are about a million other things it will do, give me a few more years.

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Captain Obvious - Check the simple stuff first

I got the carburetors put back on the bike. IT RUNS PERFECT! Less a little tweaking on the balance. This bike is pretty hard to start with dry carbs. I'm not sure if this is a characteristic of the GL1200. I used a little starting fluid to get it going. I could tell from the start it was running better. It settled down to a 2000 RPM idle with full choke. Then when it got up to temperature it was idling around 800 so I bumped it up to 1100 RPM. It was definitely out of balance. I big hole in the clouds blew through so I had to take it out. Immediately it pulled better going up the hill from my house and I ran it around the neighborhood, then down by the lake. The Lake Sammamish road is a 45 MPH limit. This was the first time in about 20 years I rode a bike in the wet. When I turned out on the road I cranked it, bike ran great right though 4000 and then the back end broke loose. I don't remember the 1100 doing that, but it spun up pretty quick. By the time I shut it down it got a pretty good wobble going. Of course it always feels like it lasts longer, but it probably flipped back and forth 6 or 7 times. Those Michelin Commanders stunk up pretty good. I got to say this is a powerful bike, I'm quite happy. Thanks to everyone on this site you your knowledge and experience. It was very helpful.

Two last things to do, the left rear shock dumped the oil and needs to be fixed and the front shocks need to have the oil changed. After that, I'm calling it done. On to the 1100.
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