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Delo 400LE vs. 400SDE

Any one know the difference between the 400LE vs 400SDE They have both at wally world and I thought about trying one them in my gl1800 But than I called the rep at Delo and told him that I was going to put one them in the gl1800 and he said it was not recommended for wet clutch,s
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the LE is okay for the wet clutch, 100s of us using it for years.

the SDE is one I know nothing of, would have to research the label.


https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/...&docFormat=PDF


I think the engineer is right, it is for the 2017 and newer engines which have tighter tolerances, and has friction modifiers in it.

Stay with the 'LE' or go with Rotella T-5 10w30 which meets all of the requirements for our engines.

I am running T-6 which is 5w40 but for a different reason than you need. My bike is an '02 and the '01 thru '05 have a "potential" to break the ADG ( alternator drive gear ) if you crank it up too fast at startup with cold oil. I minimize that with 5w and staying miles away from the throttle until the ECM brings the RPMs back down.

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the LE is okay for the wet clutch, 100s of us using it for years.

the SDE is one I know nothing of, would have to research the label.


https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/...&docFormat=PDF


I think the engineer is right, it is for the 2017 and newer engines which have tighter tolerances, and has friction modifiers in it.

Stay with the 'LE' or go with Rotella T-5 10w30 which meets all of the requirements for our engines.

I am running T-6 which is 5w40 but for a different reason than you need. My bike is an '02 and the '01 thru '05 have a "potential" to break the ADG ( alternator drive gear ) if you crank it up too fast at startup with cold oil. I minimize that with 5w and staying miles away from the throttle until the ECM brings the RPMs back down.
I have 02 also so I might just go with the T-6 ALSO
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I originally had zeroed in on a Mobil 1 oil product, but called the Mobil 1 engineering department and he told me that none of their synthetic oils are suitable for a wet clutch.

So, I wrote off Mobil 1.... but the search for a 5w oil continued, and that led to the Rotella T-6

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I originally had zeroed in on a Mobil 1 oil product, but called the Mobil 1 engineering department and he told me that none of their synthetic oils are suitable for a wet clutch.

So, I wrote off Mobil 1.... but the search for a 5w oil continued, and that led to the Rotella T-6
You pointed out something else I did not know on the ADG not touch the throttle until its warmed up or fear of braking the ADG Which after doing the research is a major deal
But on the Mobile 1 4t 10w 40w that would be good for are bikes right and the wet clutch
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I do NOT know anything at all about Mobile 1 4T 10w40

As long as it does NOT have friction modifiers, it should be okay, BUT with the ADG factor thrown in, IMO, the 5w is a wiser choice.

when I talked with the Mobil 1 engineer, I was specifically asking about their 5w oils available "at that time"

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I do NOT know anything at all about Mobile 1 4T 10w40

As long as it does NOT have friction modifiers, it should be okay, BUT with the ADG factor thrown in, IMO, the 5w is a wiser choice.

when I talked with the Mobil 1 engineer, I was specifically asking about their 5w oils available "at that time"
Thanks John I will get the T-6
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Let's get together next summer at NASR11

http://www.northamericangoldwings.co...er-rally-nasr/


The summer rallys used to be called NASSIR and were hosted by this forum, but after the forum was sold, a group of us formed a summer rally committee and renamed it slightly, and changed the host to an independently owned forum not controlled by a corporation.

Same nice folks, just a different website to host the rally threads on...
come next spring, that link will be back in my signature again.

http://www.northamericangoldwings.co...er-rally-nasr/

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North American Steve Saunders International Rally

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Let's get together next summer at NASR11

http://www.northamericangoldwings.co...er-rally-nasr/


The summer rallys used to be called NASSIR and were hosted by this forum, but after the forum was sold, a group of us formed a summer rally committee and renamed it slightly, and changed the host to an independently owned forum not controlled by a corporation.

Same nice folks, just a different website to host the rally threads on...
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http://www.northamericangoldwings.co...er-rally-nasr/

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North American Steve Saunders International Rally
That looks like it would be great time not to far away from me I will be talking it over with my wife We for sure would stay in one the rooms I am pretty sure we most likly will go Can,t wait to meet you all
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With projected summer temps in the high 90s, my body no longer will allow me long travel days in temps above 80-85 degrees...

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