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post #11 of 206 (permalink) Old 12-24-2017, 06:50 PM
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It does seem like you might have a head gasket that failed. They can fail in several ways. The most common is between the water jacket and combustion chamber. When that happens you will lose coolant and get combustion gases in the cooling system. That is why you check for bubbles in the radiator. If the mayo is black that is a pretty good indication the head gasket has failed. Also what your bike displays is the miss at start up. That is because the failed head gasket allows coolant to leak in to the cylinder while it sits over night. When you start it the coolant gets on the plug and fouls the plug for a while. Usually it will steam also. Do you get steam out the exhaust? You might think it is smoke but probably steam. It will almost smell sweet in the air and the cloud will go away in a minute from the air. Smoke stays way longer. Hate to say I think you have a bad head gasket again. I do not necessarily believe in OEM as much as Dennis but I have seen enough aftermarket gaskets fail that I too would suggest OEM only if it turns out you need them. Good luck my friend..

EDIT: As I read again I noticed you said mayo on the cap. Which cap? On the oil filler cap is usually coolant in the oil while on the radiator cap it is combustion gases in the cooling system. Either scenario is an indication of a failed head gasket. Take all the plugs out. See if one is perfectly white like it has been steam cleaned. Bet you know what that means.

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I've not heard anybody speak well of aftermarket head gaskets.

And Crimson, don't let this linger. Water in a cylinder can do very bad things.

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I've not heard anybody speak well of aftermarket head gaskets.
I'm sure there other head gaskets as good or better than the Honda ones.

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I've not heard anybody speak well of aftermarket head gaskets.

And Crimson, don't let this linger. Water in a cylinder can do very bad things.
I will need more time and money, so I guess I have to stop riding and take public transportation to work in the meantime. Also quick update, On my 25 minute ride to a buddy's house yesterday, my wing stated over heating a bit about 5 minutes away from my destination. I pulled over and sooooooooo much smoke was coming out the right exhaust(maybe it was steam??). So much that I could barely see the cars behind me. I turned the engine off and let it cool for about five minutes and finished my ride. it didn't over heat at all thought. This morning I went back home, more smoke out the right exhaust, not nearly as much, but still some. the good news is that the start up was very smooth, and the temperature gauge was the best i've seen in a while, it barely even moved!! as far as the mayonayse color on the radiatior cap goes, it wasnt black, more of a light brown/tan color, So maybe it is just natural condensation. Hopefully this gives yall a bit more insite before I make my final decision on what to do from here, or lack there of. If my right head is acting up, Could it just possibly be that the bolts just need to be retightened?

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You need a gasket and proper installation.
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I am just a little concerned that the temp gauge did not move. If the bike is too low on coolant the temp gauge sensor will not be imersed in coolant and the gauge will not move even if the motor is blistering hot. Where are you seeing the mayo? On the oil filler cap?

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the temp gauge did move definitely, just stayed a lot on the cooler side this time. mayo was on the rad cap, wasnt too much either. also, if i do replace the the head gasket. will the head need resurfacing again? I will be checking spark plugs tomorrow for more details.
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Here is a great how-to on DIY head resurfacing. Use the marker trick to make sure your head isn't warped.

http://goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewto...p?f=11&t=13935

+1 on Mother Honda head gaskets!!

Also, to confirm you have a blown head gasket, let 'er sit over night, pull out the plugs. Key on, kill switch off - hit the start button. Did any cylinder spit coolant?

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this is an awesome test oldschool!! I will try it asap!
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It'll happen quick, drape a clean rag over the plug holes. You may even want to mark the rag as to which plug hole it covers. Hit the start button, then go search for the rags, they will fly quite a distance! Look for coolant marks when found.

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