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Have no idea what DCT means but from what I have read here I am thinking dual clutch transmission? Am I close. I'll go look it up right now.

You be right:

Dual Clutch and has been in use since before WWII, so I guess they might have it figured out.

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do you think the DCT might be a bike that would warrant the Extended Warranty?

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I read on a Valkyrie forum thread from one who did a test ride . He seemed to prefer the ole manual single clutch unit.
I expect though a dealer test ride is not near enough time to make an informed decision. Problem is at 24K I couldnt afford to make the wrong choice .
I'd love a test ride , but the Southeast meet n greet is the same weekend as daytona bike week where you can ride one . Well if you stand in line long enough or early enough . LOL

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As far as i know the DCT was inwented by porsche for their Le mans race cars about 35 years ago . ( they called it PDK = Porsche duppel kublung ).
So ? , - i think it should be an reliable system by now !
Many , - yes many sporty an more ordinary cars has been using this type of gearbox for decades now , so why should it cause problems in an motorcycle with only 20 % weigth an horsepower ?

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I must be even more shut in than I thought. I am aware of the automated manual transmission in trucks but never heard of such a thing as a DCT. There are no similarity between the autoshift and DCT other than they are manual transmissions shifted by a computer. The truck autoshift works just like a manual except the computer and actuators do what the driver used to. I too have always thought let someone else be the guinea pig. I'll get one when the bugs are all worked out. Of course there is no way I could afford that price tag but maybe in 30 years or so. That would make me 100.

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This type of transmission was invented by Frenchman Adolphe Kégresse just before World War II, although he never developed a working model.
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The first development of the twin-clutch or dual-clutch transmission started in the early part of 1980 under the guidance of Harry Webster at Automotive Products (AP), Leamington Spa, with prototypes built into the Ford Fiesta Mk1, Ford Ranger, and Peugeot 205.

so the idea has been around for a long long time, 78 years at a minimum for the idea.
and 38 years since it was put into standard production products.

Our Goldwing is not the first bike with a DCT,

http://en.honda-dct.com/

https://gearheads.org/top-10-automatic-motorcycles/

and that is just a couple of links, Google found more.

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For the most part, the DCT is not intended for the old Wingers, but put there to attract new Wingers.

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For the most part, the DCT is not intended for the old Wingers, but put there to attract new Wingers.
The DCT Wing would be a good candidate for triking by Oldwingers with mobility issues.
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I will get the extended on a new one. Lots of changes with transmissions whether manual or DCT. Also the motor has mad some drastic changes as well..... So its one of those things for me that I will do it and hope I never use it...
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For the most part, the DCT is not intended for the old Wingers, but put there to attract new Wingers.
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I'm pretty intrigued by it and love my 08. Reminds me of higher end sports cars with paddle shift. With the new throttle by wire on all of their new wings, that is one that was an eye opener. Although I've flow a few planes with fly by wire... never had a motorcycle with throttle by wire.

My wife has the 2017 CTX 700 with DCT.... and she loves it.

Anyway.... I believe I'm gonna roll the dice on o Tourea DCT. While DCirT is a foreign thought to me.... I"m gonna give it a whirl.
I sure hope no one hears from me towards the end of the year griping about it...
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The DCT Wing would be a good candidate for triking by Oldwingers with mobility issues.

Not saying it won't get purchased by some old folks...er...seasoned wingers.

But the '18 seems to be designed to attract a new generation of old far...er...folks.
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