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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-19-2018, 07:53 PM
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Honda Branded anti-freeze is now long-life.

I know, from experience, that Prestone with silicates severely shortens a pump's life.

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Peak long life antifreeze is silicate free. Ethylene glycol based. Should be OK.
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Honda Branded anti-freeze is now long-life.

I know, from experience, that Prestone with silicates severely shortens a pump's life.
I wonder if you had some of the early coolant that was pretty high in Silicate when you saw pump failures. Silicate had lots of issues when it first came out. It is a dissolved solid. Like sugar in your coffee. In the cold states like Wisconsin there were vehicles overheating in bitter cold weather. Seems in the cold the silicate would "drop out" and turn to a gel. That gel would settle to the lowest point which was the lower radiator hose. It would plug the hose and over heat. I know they did away with most all of the silicates in all antifreeze now. If you ever see a green mark on the shaft of a water pump that is silicates and in fact it is a leak. Actually a seep. It is so small you might have to add a cup a year after it starts seeping. New Hondas can use the Extended Life antifreeze with no issues as the have all aluminum radiators. It is the lead and copper mixed with the OAT antifreeze that causes issues. I know it is confusing. I went to a seminar when OAT Technology first came out and I still have to go to the internet to refresh my memory about what is what. It is not the end of the world but if you go to the link I think that is where I saw some pictures of the slime and scale that builds up in the radiator.
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Peak long life antifreeze is silicate free. Ethylene glycol based. Should be OK.
Kind of confusing when you say Peak is ethylene glycol because you are right. But not completely. All Jacuzzi's are Hot Tubs but not all Hot Tubs are Jacuzzi's. All antifreeze is ethylene glycol base. Polypropylene is a modified ethylene glycol. You can even use the same refractometer for either. It is like you have to be part mechanic and part chemist. I have over 100K on my 1500 with the green stuff. I know the green stuff silicate free is getting hard to find.

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I've been using Prestone 5 year antifreeze since I've owned the bike. It says it contains no silicates. I've seen no problems and I have close to 150,000 miles on the bike. Beware of people who make **** up. The stuff you bought is fine. You'd save money,though, by buying concentrate and mixing with distilled water.

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I've been using Prestone 5 year antifreeze since I've owned the bike. It says it contains no silicates. I've seen no problems and I have close to 150,000 miles on the bike. Beware of people who make **** up. The stuff you bought is fine. You'd save money,though, by buying concentrate and mixing with distilled water.
Yes and no. OAT will work if your radiator is aluminum and you flush your entire cooling system with water and then refill with a 50/450 or 60/40 mixture of OAT, but there are some issues with the interaction between organic coolants and lead solder, so using OAT in a copper radiator is not recommended.

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thanks for all the input guys, honestly im not trying to be cheap i just want to find the proper thing for my bike. i live in mexico and there is actually an small honda dealer but they dont really sell any parts for big bikes, if i wanted to order something for my bike they will ask for the vin, once i give them the vin they say they cant sell me anything because its imported. BS. they only stock and display small air cooled bikes that are used for pizza delivery and so they only stock parts for that kind of bikes.

im going to try to find another auto parts store to see if i can find one that actually says on the label that is silicate free. if i cant ill use the preston i got.
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William - I'm sure you'll be fine with the Prestone. It's all I use in the 3 water-cooled bikes I own. Regarding parts: If you can't order from Western Honda or South Sound Honda yourself, I'd be happy to help you out if that would be possible.

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thanks for all the input guys, honestly im not trying to be cheap i just want to find the proper thing for my bike. i live in mexico and there is actually an small honda dealer but they dont really sell any parts for big bikes, if i wanted to order something for my bike they will ask for the vin, once i give them the vin they say they cant sell me anything because its imported. BS. they only stock and display small air cooled bikes that are used for pizza delivery and so they only stock parts for that kind of bikes.

im going to try to find another auto parts store to see if i can find one that actually says on the label that is silicate free. if i cant ill use the preston i got.
Prestone Regular or 50/50 is a silicate free OAT antifreeze. It uses phosphates to replace the silicates.

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