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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 11-26-2018, 01:26 PM Thread Starter
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1984 GL1200 Standard - new issue

Hi All, need some help again.

Decided to take a little ride yesterday, went about 6 miles. She no longer charges properly, even with a new stator and reg/rec. Battery died and I was able to get a jump and charged enough to get back home.

While running, hook up my voltmeter, battery very slowly drains or stays the same, no longer seeing 14+ volts while running. When running, runs like a goldwing should, just a bit of popping through the carbs between 1000-2000 rpms.

The first few start ups after rebuild, was seeing at least 14V while running, so she was charging great. Stator, reg/rec, and battery are brand new.

I'm running 10-40w high quality oil with a little bit of marvel mystery oil. I may have about 1/4 quart too much oil in there - was using the marvel to get the engine nice and clean after 20 years of not running, could that have affected stator?

Stator: https://www.randakks.com/upgraded-st...nd-gl1201.html
reg/rec: https://www.randakks.com/regulator-r...00-gl1000.html


It could possibly be a loose connection but doubtful , I'll go over it more thoroughly when I have time.

Any initial ideas/testing procedure/things I could check that might be cause her to randomly stop charging?

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I would go back to basics. Check the 3 wires that come from the stator for voltage. Make sure the connections are all good. Troubleshoot it just like you did originally when it quit charging. Unfortunately even new parts can fail prematurely.

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Check all the connectors from the stator to the regulator for signs of heat. Also recheck the battery and regulator grounds.

Unfortunately, its pretty common for aftermarket stators to last that long. I thought Randall's stuff was better, but maybe not.

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I agree with the other comment. Pull the Left side cover & check those 3 yellow wires at the plug. The plug melts & your charging stops. Cut the plug out & sodder them together. cover with heat shrink. Wires do not matter how they are re joined. as long as all 3 are reconnected to the other 3.

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I'll check the wires more thoroughly this week and let you know my findings.

Really bummed! Ran great for a week.
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I've had 3 melted connectors, one after the other that resulted in your symptoms. I finally chucked all the power connectors and installed 30 amp Anderson Power Pole connectors. They don't melt.
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A friend had an '84 with wire nuts replacing that plug. He didn't know how long they had been there but they were still there when he sold the bike after some 20 years of ownership.

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Those wires run up to the reg/ref and get burned up under the false tank also, check everything all the way to the reg. The new reg/ref comes with wires that look to small for the load. There is a lot of heat around the reg. If the stator has the right voltage on each leg. with the rpm's up at about 2000 than it is ok. next check the wiring.
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Those wires run up to the reg/ref and get burned up under the false tank also, check everything all the way to the reg. The new reg/ref comes with wires that look to small for the load. There is a lot of heat around the reg. If the stator has the right voltage on each leg. with the rpm's up at about 2000 than it is ok. next check the wiring.
Thanks Jerry,

Where should I be connecting my voltmeter to in order to check if the stator has the correct voltage at each leg? The three yellow wires, one at a time? What kind of voltage should I see?
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Thanks Jerry,

Where should I be connecting my voltmeter to in order to check if the stator has the correct voltage at each leg? The three yellow wires, one at a time? What kind of voltage should I see?
Assign any of the wires a letter A-B-C in any order. Put the two probes of your voltmeter from A to B then A to C then B to C.
The engine should be running at about 3,000 RPM and the plug unplugged or wires cut if hard wired. You are testing the 3 wires from the stator (engine side) You should see in excess of 50 volts AC. Again that is 50 volts AC. (VAC) That is for all 3 tests. (all 3 legs of the stator))
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