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post #21 of 42 (permalink) Old 02-19-2019, 08:56 AM
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take a look at this:

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Now THAT is some good info!
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Low air in the REAR suspension also causes the Bike to wallow, or not tract straight. Using Progressive Rear Suspension (90psi) pretty much fixed that on my 1500's.


I also like using a BT45 (Bias) front tire... it stiffens up the front end too, more so than a radial.


Might also verify that swing arm bearings are in good shape, and torqued properly.


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I agree with Dave


But I also like the post about checking stem bearing torque



However the product claims this should solve the wobble. So I guess they imply it is a factory defect, that is normal. Thus why they made the products called super brace.



Now I have a fork brace on my Gl1800 and I like it , but I can tell you it is very critical you install it per directions. I have included the directions just for your FYI. Each step is important.



DO not assume the tire is on correctly , follow these steps to a TEEE


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Honda GoldWing 15001. Place motorcycle on the center stand.2. Loosen axle and pinch bolts.3. Remove the plastic chrome cover over the fender.4. Carefully remove one front bolt and one rear bolt on the opposite side with a 7/16" or 11mm socket.5. Screw the two long studs into the holes that the bolts just came out of. (approximately 1/4" into fender support plate)6. Remove the other two bolts and install the SuperBrace over the studs. Tap it down by hand. Should be snug but DO NOT FORCE IT. Secure it with two new bolts provided first and then remove the long studs. Now install the last two new bolts and tighten all four bolts to 12 ft. pounds. 7. Inside the plastic chrome cover will be two little ears. Remove them with a pair of pliers so that the cover will fit down properly. Now tighten the cover down with the bolts.8. Re-torque the axle and pinch bolts to factory spec.IMPORTANT: Before riding, bounce the front suspension of the motorcycle and cycle it up and down to ensure proper installation was done. To prevent stiction, make sure the fork tubes are parallel and the axle bolt is NOT over tightened. Factory torque spec is required.

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I had that wobble happen to me, and ultimately what made it completely go away was when I replaced the stem bearings.

Everybody said tire, so I changed that first, and it did help a lot. But it was still there if I induced the wobble (not recommended, lol), so then I changed the fork bushings, which I changed anyway when I replaced the seals, because when I got the bike it had NO fork oil (added some and discovered the bad seal, which promptly ruined the front brakes).

Then I read a post about the stem bearings, and after much research, I learned how to make the correct tool needed, and so replaced the stem bearings and the seats. After that I could bang on the handlebars (also not recommended) with no hint of wobble.

Now there is a detailed set of directions that need to be followed to correctly "seat" the bearings, but that link above looks good. I used some directions that had photos, and all went well. The hard part is getting/making the tools needed. They have a loan program here somewhere. Good Luck.

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Worn head bearings is what’s causing your low speed wobble.
Tires can cause a shake, as well as low fork fluid, weak suspension etc.
I have repaired many makes of bikes, with the death wobble. 1500 and 1800’s also.

There is more to it then just bearing replacement, they must be seated and loaded correctly to cure the issue.
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Excellent! More tools I will need to buy. Thanks for the awesome information! I can't wait to get started on this!

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I had that wobble happen to me, and ultimately what made it completely go away was when I replaced the stem bearings.

Everybody said tire, so I changed that first, and it did help a lot. But it was still there if I induced the wobble (not recommended, lol), so then I changed the fork bushings, which I changed anyway when I replaced the seals, because when I got the bike it had NO fork oil (added some and discovered the bad seal, which promptly ruined the front brakes).

Then I read a post about the stem bearings, and after much research, I learned how to make the correct tool needed, and so replaced the stem bearings and the seats. After that I could bang on the handlebars (also not recommended) with no hint of wobble.

Now there is a detailed set of directions that need to be followed to correctly "seat" the bearings, but that link above looks good. I used some directions that had photos, and all went well. The hard part is getting/making the tools needed. They have a loan program here somewhere. Good Luck.
Thanks a bunch. I"ll be honest. Working on the front forks and tree kind of scares me. But I must do what I gotta do. I'm certain that my problem is the same as yours was. I too "induced" the wobble simply be letting go with one hand, or by creating the wobble myself, to wit it worsens on its own unless I stop the wobble. Compared to the GL1200 I have, the handle bar movement just feels very slippery and loose to me, and sometimes feels hard to control when turning on rough terrain such as a bumpy ground as I have to fight the curves of the road when making a u-turn on a bumpy surface; scares me sometimes.

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How much air in the front tire?

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How much air in the front tire?
At first about 36psi which is what the sticker suggests for the front. I boosted them up to 40psi, yet there was not change. It will only wobble by itself if I let go of one hand and my speed is under 45mph. I can also make it wobble if I do so manually while lightly holding the grips.

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