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odinjunior 04-10-2019 07:32 PM

Darkside Question
 
We just acquired a 98 Gl/Sidecar rig. It's going to need tires and soon. What is the current choice for the rear? A search here brought up a recommendation for the Austone Taxi tire.

haroldaugustine 04-10-2019 07:51 PM

Don't know if its good for a sidecar rig, but I sure love my Austone taxi tire on my 95 Gl1500se. Super stable in the rain and on dry roads. Great mileage. When I wear out the current one, I will get another

jlaframboise 04-10-2019 08:57 PM

I have the Austone also. It's about an inch taller than a stock tire. For those of us who do a lot of cross country riding it's like having overdrive. The engine turns only about 3,000 rpm at 75 mph. As great as that is for us, it may feel like the gearing is too tall with your sidecar. You may be more interested in a 195/55R16 which I can't speak for because I've never run that size. The Austone is 175/80R16. A tire very similar to that in size is 185/75R16. The 195/55R16 also comes in the run on flat with very stiff sidewalls. Folks will be along any minute now to give you some insight based on experience on these tires. What ever your choice of tire, you are going to love your bike, the ride and the adventures it takes you on.

OnaWingAndaPrayer 04-10-2019 09:24 PM

I do not believe you will get the 195/55R16 to fit in the swingarm or to fit the narrow wheel.
When I was riding a 1500 I did use a Dunlop ROF DSST WinterSport 175/60 R16. This is a run flat tire. For a while it was not available but it seems I recently did see it advertised. You might try TireRack or look at Canadian suppliers which might still have winter tires in stock. This tire is just a tad shorter than the stock bike tire, which may work well with the added load of the hack.

DaveO430 04-11-2019 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OnaWingAndaPrayer (Post 5834875)
I do not believe you will get the 195/55R16 to fit in the swingarm or to fit the narrow wheel.
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That's what I was thinking. Perfect size for an 1800 but too wide for a 1500.

Ekvh1 04-11-2019 08:44 AM

I have a 195/55/16 on a 1500 rim/ final drive on a 1200 swingarm in a 1000 frame, however the frame has been bobbed. It would probably have issues hitting somewhere in stock form.

odinjunior 04-11-2019 12:13 PM

Thanks for the replies. I'm going to be feeling my way on this one. The ability to drop the RPM with a different size tire sounds attractive. I'm sure that it's gonna be a gas hog with this two seater hack on it.

https://i.ibb.co/hyYYHbB/98-GW-and-Sidecar-004.jpg

jlaframboise 04-11-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by odinjunior (Post 5834959)
Thanks for the replies. I'm going to be feeling my way on this one. The ability to drop the RPM with a different size tire sounds attractive. I'm sure that it's gonna be a gas hog with this two seater hack on it.

https://i.ibb.co/hyYYHbB/98-GW-and-Sidecar-004.jpg


Nice looking rig.


There is also a forum here specifically for Trikes, Trailers and Sidecars. It may be a sub forum of the Technical Forum. I'm sure you will find more people who share the same issues and concerns as you on that one.

odinjunior 04-11-2019 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jlaframboise (Post 5834965)
Nice looking rig.


There is also a forum here specifically for Trikes, Trailers and Sidecars. It may be a sub forum of the Technical Forum. I'm sure you will find more people who share the same issues and concerns as you on that one.

Thanks. I searched there before posting here. Seems to be mostly Trikes and not much usage.

Alan_Hepburn 04-11-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnaWingAndaPrayer (Post 5834875)
I do not believe you will get the 195/55R16 to fit in the swingarm or to fit the narrow wheel.


I agree - I tried putting a 195 on my '94 but decided to do some measuring before I went to the trouble of mounting the tire. The swingarm has about 185 mm of clearance so a 195 mm tire is going to be a tight fit! I ended up with the Austone and it fits great. I've heard that they are no longer being shipped to the US, and the only distributor has about 10 left so if you want one you better order it quickly!

Alan_Hepburn 04-11-2019 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnaWingAndaPrayer (Post 5834875)
I do not believe you will get the 195/55R16 to fit in the swingarm or to fit the narrow wheel.


I agree - I tried putting a 195 on my '94 but decided to do some measuring before I went to the trouble of mounting the tire. The swingarm has about 185 mm of clearance so a 195 mm tire is going to be a tight fit! I ended up with the Austone and it fits great. I've heard that they are no longer being shipped to the US, and the only distributor has about 10 left so if you want one you better order it quickly!

ALEX BERECZKY 04-11-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by odinjunior (Post 5834959)
Thanks for the replies. I'm going to be feeling my way on this one. The ability to drop the RPM with a different size tire sounds attractive. I'm sure that it's gonna be a gas hog with this two seater hack on it.


I've run both the Austone and the Dunlop WinterSport.
There is Zero mileage (mpg) difference between the two, despite the different rpm's at cruise due to different tire diameters. The Austone lasted 30k, and the WinterSports 20k



That said, I prefer the (smaller) Wintersport's ride... and (not applicable to a trike) it makes the bike easier to get on/off off.

jlaframboise 04-11-2019 03:54 PM

According to size charts, this tire is very very close in size to the Austone Taxi Tire. https://simpletire.com/zeetex-185-75...0034622b-tires


Here is the tire in case you want to do a search yourself. There are a few places that have this tire. Zeetex CT1000 185/75r16

jlaframboise 04-11-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan_Hepburn (Post 5834985)
I agree - I tried putting a 195 on my '94 but decided to do some measuring before I went to the trouble of mounting the tire. The swingarm has about 185 mm of clearance so a 195 mm tire is going to be a tight fit! I ended up with the Austone and it fits great. I've heard that they are no longer being shipped to the US, and the only distributor has about 10 left so if you want one you better order it quickly!


I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I've heard guys with 1500s say that they are running the 195. Although it is a tad wider, it is also smaller in diameter. The widest part of the tire is at a wider part of the swing arm. However, I have proven to myself that my memory is not to be trusted. I wouldn't expect anybody else to put their trust in it either.

odinjunior 04-11-2019 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan_Hepburn (Post 5834985)
I agree - I tried putting a 195 on my '94 but decided to do some measuring before I went to the trouble of mounting the tire. The swingarm has about 185 mm of clearance so a 195 mm tire is going to be a tight fit! I ended up with the Austone and it fits great. I've heard that they are no longer being shipped to the US, and the only distributor has about 10 left so if you want one you better order it quickly!

Which distributor has the Austone? I can't find one anywhere.

jlaframboise 04-11-2019 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by odinjunior (Post 5835001)
Which distributor has the Austone? I can't find one anywhere.


They were originally available from universaltire.com but they no longer have them. Then simpletire.com had them but are out of stock. That is why I suggested the Zeetex as an alternative since it is about the same size. I cannot vouch for it though because I'm still running my Austone and know nothing about the wear or handling of the Zeetex.

Universal has a Dunlop very similar to the Austone and they claim to have 2 in stock. https://www.universaltire.com/175r16...axi-black.html


Expensive as hell though.

AZgl1800 04-11-2019 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jlaframboise (Post 5835015)
They were originally available from universaltire.com but they no longer have them. Then simpletire.com had them but are out of stock. That is why I suggested the Zeetex as an alternative since it is about the same size. I cannot vouch for it though because I'm still running my Austone and know nothing about the wear or handling of the Zeetex.

Universal has a Dunlop very similar to the Austone and they claim to have 2 in stock. https://www.universaltire.com/175r16...axi-black.html


Expensive as hell though.


actually. universaltire.com still has them, and are going to continue to have them.
I saw a post on *.Docs about this, and the WebMaster screwed up.


Call them on the phone, they have them in stock.

odinjunior 04-11-2019 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlaframboise (Post 5835015)
They were originally available from universaltire.com but they no longer have them. Then simpletire.com had them but are out of stock. That is why I suggested the Zeetex as an alternative since it is about the same size. I cannot vouch for it though because I'm still running my Austone and know nothing about the wear or handling of the Zeetex.

Universal has a Dunlop very similar to the Austone and they claim to have 2 in stock. https://www.universaltire.com/175r16...axi-black.html


Expensive as hell though.

Really! $221 plus $50 shipping. Yikes.

Ekvh1 04-11-2019 11:13 PM

When I got my 195/55/16 I measured it before mounting and thought, “ No way in hello.” It was definitely too wide, but after mounting it and airing it up, it fit easily. It was 1/2-3/4” narrower than off the rim. Okay, it didn’t fit easily but it has 1/4-3/8” on each side of the 1200 swingarm. I’m quite sure it would fit the 1500 swingarm but would interfere above. Mine has a top mounted fuel tank so I have less trouble.

tamathumper 04-12-2019 09:06 AM

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Wow, now THAT's a SIDEcar... and that tail light is very, very suggestive of an upside-down Porsche 944 tail light unit...


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