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post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old 04-11-2019, 12:19 PM
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I think Redwing is on to something, that the jolt may have jammed a pin or two in the starter clutch. Over the years, those pins can get gummed up with sludge and varnish. Make it a practice to add Seafoam to your crankcase for the last 100 easy miles before each oil change. When filling with fresh oil, pay attention to Honda's oil weight recommendations for the expected riding season/temperatures.
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Probably means something else, but “ Yes the engine has to come out to put the starter in. The starter is chain drive, the sprocket will fall when the starter is removed. “ isn’t true. Sprocket can’t go far and could not do damage unless you ripped the bike completely up-side down. Requires a little foreplay to get it aligned.
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Just a comment on counter steering. Pushing the handlebar forward on the inside of a turn does the same thing and it's lots easier to remember. Push in the direction you want to go.

If a quick move is needed you "push to your escape path."


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I wonder if your excursion upset the sprague and now that it has righted itself you might never have another issue if you keep it on the road. Won't hurt to give it a look over but if nothing seems amiss you might be fine.
This is what I'm hoping. I turned the starter on five times today with the kill switch off, and it turned the engine over every time, no problem. Of course this was a cold engine -- no time for a ride -- so we'll have to see how it behaves with the engine warmed.

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I have had that happen twice when not paying attention. As for the starting, if it's working don't fix it.
That's exactly what happened this time: I wasn't paying attention to my speed going into the turn. And since the starter seems to be working (see post just above), I'll leave it alone. Thanks, Dave.

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Yes the engine has to come out to put the starter in. The starter is chain drive, the sprocket will fall when the starter is removed. The clutch is behind the flywheel.
On the 1100 and 1200 Hondas at least, the starter can be removed, cleaned and repaired fairly easily without removing the engine. (I've done it on my 1200.) I just didn't know where the starter clutch was, for which you gave me the bad news. I'll wait for it happen again before I do anything about it. And thanks for the post. I appreciate your help.
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That's exactly what happened this time: I wasn't paying attention to my speed going into the turn. And since the starter seems to be working (see post just above), I'll leave it alone. Thanks, Dave.
Was on a highway I never traveled before and someone knocked down the warning sign so I came in the turn way to fast. Lucky no cars were coming the other way. Lucky the ditch was not much more than a slight depression. Lucky there was a corn field to catch me and my ex-wife. Well lucky it caught me anyway. Just kidding.
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once.



Since then, it's been up to me to make good decisions.



Can't say that has worked out very well, either.
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Positioning myself correctly at the turn has kept me in my comfort zone most of the time. Remember outside-inside-outside.
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starter come out on my84 easy enuf... after fighting it for 10 mins... it fell out. I did it with bike on side stand with 2x4 under sidestand gives a little more room to work and bike was still tipped toward side stand... just enuf to keep it from falling over the other way, but not really. it was stable. took starter apart, it would occasionally WHIIIIING and not engage (weak battery, although volt meter still read 12.x volts?) took starter apart, cleaned out graphite dust, that shunts power to ground, without full power going thru brushes to crank motor. cleaned out OLD NASTY grease out of planetary reduction unit, replaced with a blend of gear oil and a little grease. reinstalled... same thing... fought it for 10 mins, thinking oh oh.... and then it fell in like it fell out. chain sprocket did not go anywhere since bike was still tipped over side stand side.


take exhaust header loose (WD 40 is ur friend, as is anti seize on re assembly) mine has twice pipes with HD take off's so each side is independent with little S pipe between header and HD take off muffler (80 dB @ 3000 RPM's is plenty loud, for me). the brushes were good @ >5mm. book sais NOT to sand the area where the brushes ride, I did, no apparent harm done. I like a fresh surface for brushes to ride on. Occam's Razor.... all things being =.... the simplest answer tends to be the correct answer. IT WONT START?! lets take those carbs apart!!!!!.... got gas??? fuel valve turned on ? don't ride faster than your guardian angel can fly.
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