2002 GL18 Brake Drag - Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums
 4Likes
  • 3 Post By SMEDEN(=the blacksmith)
  • 1 Post By ALEX BERECZKY
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-23-2019, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
theliverkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: holt, Missouri, USA
Model: current 2002 GL1800,1986 gl1200 Aspy. 2002 harley d ultra classic..
Posts: 237
2002 GL18 Brake Drag

Well hello everyone! Its been a long while since I posted here. After 15yrs of riding I finally have a job that allows me to ride to work everyday. Many who know me know that I have taken a position with my company that allows this now and may I say IT'S WONDERFUL!! Now that the greeting is out of the way, on to business.

2002 gl1800, 149,000mi on the clock- constant brake noise. Pads are dragging most constantly, I can hear it at speed bouncing of the jersey barriers. I did a basic pad replacement at the first of the year. The noise has been there in excess of a year but appears to be getting worse. It is worth noting I can hear the "dragging noise" from front and rear. While performing an inspection the other night i noticed I can not achieve a full, free rotation from the front wheel while on the center stand. Fluid has never been changed to my knowledge and rotors are grooved.

On my agenda is:
-Caliper rebuild
-Rotor replacement
-fluid flush and fill
-MC rebuild

I am struggling to find a "1 stop shop for all the parts" and suggestions or help would be appreciated.
theliverkid is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 12:02 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Green Bay, Wisconsin, USA
Year: 1999
Make: GL1500 SE
Posts: 5,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by theliverkid View Post
Well hello everyone! Its been a long while since I posted here. After 15yrs of riding I finally have a job that allows me to ride to work everyday. Many who know me know that I have taken a position with my company that allows this now and may I say IT'S WONDERFUL!! Now that the greeting is out of the way, on to business.

2002 gl1800, 149,000mi on the clock- constant brake noise. Pads are dragging most constantly, I can hear it at speed bouncing of the jersey barriers. I did a basic pad replacement at the first of the year. The noise has been there in excess of a year but appears to be getting worse. It is worth noting I can hear the "dragging noise" from front and rear. While performing an inspection the other night i noticed I can not achieve a full, free rotation from the front wheel while on the center stand. Fluid has never been changed to my knowledge and rotors are grooved.

On my agenda is:
-Caliper rebuild
-Rotor replacement
-fluid flush and fill
-MC rebuild

I am struggling to find a "1 stop shop for all the parts" and suggestions or help would be appreciated.
I think what you have listed as "work to do" might well fix the issue. Make sure all the rattle clips are there and in good shape. Also make sure the calipers float and are not stuck in one position. If there is an issue with the calper pistons you will notice that when you push the piston back in. Given all that I bet the bike will be nice and quiet again.

FYI, it is a good idea to open the bleeder screw and then push the pistons in. Better than pushing that old rusty fluid back in the system. Especially if it has ABS.

Mike

Worked on the "big rigs" for 45 years now just riding my Wing whenever I can. Gets cold in Wisconsin.
redwing52 is online now  
post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 12:46 AM
Moderator
 
Bike...and Dennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Glendale, Arizona, USA
Model: 1987 GL1200 Interstate 290,000 miles
Posts: 21,749
If the rotors are grooved, I hope you haven't worn through the pads. The symptoms kind of indicate you might have.

Why ain't we ridin'?
Bike...and Dennis is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 02:11 AM
Senior Member
 
SMEDEN(=the blacksmith)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Vordingborg, , Denmark
Year: 2006
Make: Honda
Model: GL1000 1975 K1+GL1800 2006 airbag(US-model)+NRX1800 Rune 2004
Posts: 1,583
Garage
Be aware.
There is a recall for all 1800 where Honda gives you a new rear master cylinder and a new secondary master cylinder(located on the left front fork) and a complete fluss on the pedal operated system for FREE.(IF your rear caliper have been dragging the MAY even give you an new rear rotor).
Eaysier and cheaper than an rebuild on these parts !
Talk to your Honda dealer (he needs your WIN).

The winner is the man with most tools !
SMEDEN(=the blacksmith) is offline  
post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-26-2019, 02:09 PM
Senior Member
 
ALEX BERECZKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Anaheim, California, USA
Model: GL1500, GL1800
Posts: 2,772
Quote:
Originally Posted by theliverkid View Post
...2002 gl1800, 149,000mi...
On my agenda is:
-Caliper rebuild
-Rotor replacement
-fluid flush and fill
-MC rebuild
...

No obvious need to rebuild the Brake Caliber[/s] or (MC)Master Cylinders, or replace the rotors... Just Flush and check Pad Thickness, and Clean the Caliper Parts (especially the slide pins)


My concern it that it's never had the fluids changed... That's not good, as the brake/clutch fluid should be changed ever 2yrs.
I'd add a Service of the Clutch Slave Cylinder to your list... as it's probably gunked up by now, due to water in the lines.
theliverkid likes this.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

I void warranties


KJ6QFZ
Dark Side #590


GL1500, 1990SE, 220k miles
Front: Bridgestone Battlax BT45, 41psi
Rear: Austone 175R16, 50psi

GL1800, 2003, 60K miles [following virginity reconstruction]
Front: Bridgestone Battlax BT45, 41psi
Rear: Pirelli Winter Snowcontrol Series3, Run Flat, 41 psi
ALEX BERECZKY is online now  
post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-27-2019, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
theliverkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: holt, Missouri, USA
Model: current 2002 GL1800,1986 gl1200 Aspy. 2002 harley d ultra classic..
Posts: 237
Picked up a fresh bottle of 4, a mighty vac, and some caliper grease
theliverkid is offline  
post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-2019, 08:38 AM
Member
 
cihilb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Natrona Hts, Pa, USA
Model: 2012 Pearl White
Posts: 391
Make sure the calipers are floating free. They should move slightly when you push them side to side. The caliper bolts may be corroded. Remove and clean them and they apply a film of brake grease. If the are too bad, replace them.
cihilb is offline  
post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old 04-28-2019, 01:00 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
theliverkid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: holt, Missouri, USA
Model: current 2002 GL1800,1986 gl1200 Aspy. 2002 harley d ultra classic..
Posts: 237
So Out of curiosity and for fun I thought I would do a run out on each rotor to see where the main issue might be lying. Took a video of each side, incase anyone ever needed an idea of how to do this. Truth be told, the unit of measurement was not critical to me so much as identifying any possible warpage.

This first link is of the driver side rotor. Not near as bad as I expected but still not to my standards either. Now keep in mind I am measuring in .0001" . With that said I will be replacing this rotor.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Kl...CISFiCc4CPAPft

This next link is of the Passenger side. As you can tell there is a definite warpage on this rotor.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pR...XXklJQ0Mb_JXMz

With these findings, I want to rule out wheel bearings as well. So new rotors, Cleaning, flush, and lubing calipers and brake system, wheel bearings, new pads even though the are new.
theliverkid is offline  
Reply

  Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums > Forums > Goldwing Technical Forum

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
GL18 Rear Brake recall ??? Paloma Goldwing Technical Forum 2 07-15-2012 12:30 PM
Fuel usage GL15 vs GL18 johnocooper General Motorcycle Discussion Forum 10 06-14-2012 12:30 PM
USE 180/70 ON GL18 Wingabego General Motorcycle Discussion Forum 8 03-13-2009 09:48 AM
sticking audio buttons GL18 1peter Goldwing Technical Forum 6 07-28-2006 10:29 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome