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post #21 of 35 (permalink) Old 06-18-2019, 11:59 PM Thread Starter
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Results:
Green ground at kickstand proven correct.
Green and green/white jumper - did not produce starting in gear.
Grounds above dipstick and Radiator proved correct.
Being in reverse gear - the bike surges and hesitates causing mild lurching.

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Bike starts in gear now. Pulled a new clutch pin/screw off a friend's 1500 and its fired immediately.


So:
Speedo and tach are lit up but not reporting any information.
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Reverse gear is odd backing up (at least while on the hoist) - it surges backwards.

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Speedo and tach are lit up but not reporting any information.

and
Reverse gear is odd backing up (at least while on the hoist) - it surges backwards.
I's suspect that's normal, especially on the hoist. There's circuitry to limit the speed of the starter motor in reverse. Mins surges a little if on level ground.

Have you checked the speedometer cable? That's a cable drive to the front wheel, not electronic. Tach Yel/blu wire gets its signal from Yel/blu wire on Pin 19 of ECM connector, check continuity. Green on tach is just ground.

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Okay thats good to know then -perhaps I'm just chasing a tach and speedo problem.


Cant be the ground as (if i remember correctly) the single ground wire feeds the entire cluster back there. So if one works, they all should?!

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Re-read my previous post, You replied while I was editing and adding more info...

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Bike starts in gear now. Pulled a new clutch pin/screw off a friend's 1500 and its fired immediately.


So:
Speedo and tach are lit up but not reporting any information.
and
Reverse gear is odd backing up (at least while on the hoist) - it surges backwards.

Now you know why I put up post # 16. Wanted you to know what allows the bike to start in gear.....!!

Connecting the Green and Green/White wires together was a test to decide if the side stand switch was bad (or good).

No start in gear = side stand switch was good.

Next step would be to check the clutch micro switch function. But you figured that out before I saw your reply......!!


About the speedo: First check the speedo cable. Second check the gear box function at the front wheel. There is a plastic gear in the gear box that has been known to have stripped teeth. Third would be the speedo head unit.

Note: If the speedo cable is broken, I would recommend replacing the whole cable (not just the inner cable).

About the tach: Could be loose connections at the tach, connector issues between the ECM and the tach, no signal from the ECM or a faulty tach unit.


You have had quite a project with many issues....!!
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Reference attached file: Might be easier to read.....!

Your Tach shares the same ground as the side stand switch and you know its good.......!!!

In case you need a Tach unit: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=gl1500+tachometer
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Okay thanks! I'll chase down Yel/Blu on ECM 19...
But where is ECM 19 haha?

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The ECM is the "biggish" black box just about by your right knee if you are sitting on the bike, it will have a large connector with 26 wires in the plug.

See attachments, there's conflicting info with the color diagram I posted earlier. These from the 1994 service manual shows the tach on pin 11, not 19.
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