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I say no. Rubber loses solvents and dries out. Thats why rubber smells like.... rubber. Tires expire for that reason. Bent valves are $$$

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I bought a 24 year old, 115,000 mile 1100 that according to the owner the belts had never been changed. I didn't even ride it before changing them but goes to show they will last a long time.

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T275 TIMING BELT

Product # 85950439
  • PTFE-infused jackets to reduce frictional losses and tooth shear.
  • High grade HNBR rubber for superior heat and contamination resistance.
  • Premium tensile members providing maximum strength.
  • Aramid reinforced nylon jackets and backsides increase durability and lifetime.
very under stressed belts on the engine for how they are made.
https://assets.gates.com/content/dam...17195_2014.pdf


per laws anything having to do with emissions of a vehicle, must last a minimum of 100k miles.
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T275 TIMING BELT

Product # 85950439
  • PTFE-infused jackets to reduce frictional losses and tooth shear.
  • High grade HNBR rubber for superior heat and contamination resistance.
  • Premium tensile members providing maximum strength.
  • Aramid reinforced nylon jackets and backsides increase durability and lifetime.
very under stressed belts on the engine for how they are made.
https://assets.gates.com/content/dam...17195_2014.pdf


per laws anything having to do with emissions of a vehicle, must last a minimum of 100k miles.
But they have nothing to do with emissions & when they break there are no more emissions.
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I'm kind've differing from most here, now I'm as cheap as they come, in fact, if you look up the word cheap in the dictionary you'll find a picture of me in color, right next to my old friend Bob.

But $#!t man, $35.00, when you know what you have to lose, that's nuts!!

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If you bought a 2014 car would you worry about the 5 year old belts. One issue no one has talked about yet, I think, is the length of timing belts. The longer the belt the slower (RPM) the belt will go. Long belts last 100K plus. Little shorties like the Chev Aveo use only suggest 50 to 60K. Do whatever will help you sleep at night.

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But they have nothing to do with emissions & when they break there are no more emissions.





huh? cam timing can be off due to belts, such as a stretched belt, which affects emissions. some engines are not interference engines, jumping a tooth on a belt, engine would still run, but bad emissions.


the materials of the belt do not degrade, otherwise Honda would have given a time to change if age was a problem on their flagship model which could be had with a seven yr warranty.
the belts are very under stressed, not exposed to the elements and high underhood engine heat.


I just checked mine at 62000 miles when I was changing heads. The belts looked new, zero wear.
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huh? cam timing can be off due to belts, such as a stretched belt, which affects emissions. some engines are not interference engines, jumping a tooth on a belt, engine would still run, but bad emissions.


the materials of the belt do not degrade, otherwise Honda would have given a time to change if age was a problem on their flagship model which could be had with a seven yr warranty.
the belts are very under stressed, not exposed to the elements and high underhood engine heat.


I just checked mine at 62000 miles when I was changing heads. The belts looked new, zero wear.
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It is not unusual for a belt to look just fine but be broken. They don't usually show signs of failure to the naked eye. It would be like taking your engine apart to see if a connecting rod is going to fail. Can't tell. That is why it is so spooky. Also I agree timing belts can cause emission issues but that is a stretch. (no pun intended) A stretched belt really has no real affect on camshaft timing. If it stretched far enough to cause emission issues the teeth of the belt would not mesh with the sprocket and the engine would not run that way. Emission related components are more likely induction related, sensors, cats etc. I think if you brought your car to your dealer and asked for emission warranty when a belt fails you would have an argument on your hands..

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