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Is using balancing beads a no-no?

There have been several threads here about the virtues of using balancing beads in motorcycle tires. Most everything I can find about the two most-mentioned brands - Dyna Beads and Counteract - says they are safe for all tires. However, I asked the Bridgestone rep at Wing-Ding in Nashville what Bridgestone's official opinion was and his reply surprised me. He said the company had done internal tests with beads (he couldn't recall the brand) and their conclusion was that using beads causes some abrading on the inside of the tire and they do not recommend usage of them. He said he personally had used beads on his own bikes, but had switched back to weights when he found out about these test results. I later looked up Bridgestone's warranty and, sure enough, there is wording that the tire warranty does not cover: "Tires with sealant, balance, or other filler material that was not originally applied or inserted by the tire manufacturer." I tried to find mention on-line of the Bridgestone "tests" he spoke of, hoping to find more specifics, but to no avail. I recently put beads in my tires, so I guess I've voided the warranty and will accidentally be performing my own "tests".

Has anyone experienced any ill effects of using balancing beads?
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that sales rep you talked too is full of BS.


Ignore anything he said.


Dyna Beads, Counteract, etc will NOT damage a tire in any way.
How could they?


Centrifugal force makes them adhere to the outer perimeter, and they will only shift around if an imbalance occurs... and that is so minor as to be negligible.

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Most manufacturers of any product will cover their behinds and add all kinds of warning or do not use information. Lots of riders use beads and have no problem with them,.
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Bridgestone tires are so crappy they have to cover every angle to keep from having to warranty them. Probably in the fine print somewhere that the warranty is void if they ever touch pavement.
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I have used balancing beads (counteract) in my last two sets of Avon tires (total of 49k miles) with no issues. They work for me.

27,000 miles on the first set and 22,000 miles on the current set.
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Bridgestone tires are so crappy they have to cover every angle to keep from having to warranty them. Probably in the fine print somewhere that the warranty is void if they ever touch pavement.
I usually ran Dunlops on my Wings, I switched to Bridgestones on my 08 wing and loved them. On the rear I used the 70 series and it corrected the speedo error and the odometer error.


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There have been several threads here about the virtues of using balancing beads in motorcycle tires. Most everything I can find about the two most-mentioned brands - Dyna Beads and Counteract - says they are safe for all tires. However, I asked the Bridgestone rep at Wing-Ding in Nashville what Bridgestone's official opinion was and his reply surprised me. He said the company had done internal tests with beads (he couldn't recall the brand) and their conclusion was that using beads causes some abrading on the inside of the tire and they do not recommend usage of them. He said he personally had used beads on his own bikes, but had switched back to weights when he found out about these test results. I later looked up Bridgestone's warranty and, sure enough, there is wording that the tire warranty does not cover: "Tires with sealant, balance, or other filler material that was not originally applied or inserted by the tire manufacturer." I tried to find mention on-line of the Bridgestone "tests" he spoke of, hoping to find more specifics, but to no avail. I recently put beads in my tires, so I guess I've voided the warranty and will accidentally be performing my own "tests".

Has anyone experienced any ill effects of using balancing beads?

I have used, and still use the same concept with the same weights of Airsoft hard plastic Redjacket .22cal BBs. I just got them cheaper, but I do not believe the Dyna Beads and Counteract will abraid a tire. I do recall some mention of regular hard steel BBs or some ground glass doing some abraiding.


My .22 BBs get inserted with a funnel and tube through the bead area at mounting, and I usually vacuum them out same way and rinse and dry and reuse. I was using them in several tires, now just in the trike's tires as I sold the 1200 and they were cheap enough that I experimented with them in auto tires of various sizes & aspect ratios.
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I have been using Dyna Beads since 2007. A little over 200,000 miles.

I had heard this statement back then, while obviously not a scientific study, I examined the inside of both front and rear tires meticulously at each tire change.(and there have been a bunch of them). No signs of abrasions, and like Crystalpistol above, I vacuum them out so I can clean and reuse them.

You would think if they were causing abrasions, I would have black dust particles in my little vacuum after cleaning the tire out..... but none to be found.

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I'm "new" to this party, , ,less than 5k on Avon Cobra's front and rear, , , Dyna-beads in front (3 oz), and CounterAct beads in rear (3 oz). The E II's that were 17 yrs old had beads for a short time and BOTH E II's had absolutely NO ABRASION inside when I changed em out because of cracking/age.


I'm wondering if Bridgestone is a tire I WILL avoid, , , BEADS WORK!!!
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