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So why are they their?????
Those wires dead end at the switch, it's the other end of the wires you cut those off of you need to test.

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So how do the wires to the rear brake switch get power
Because if I can get power to the switch it may help me solve why the brake lights are fixed on?
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You aren't supposed to be able to, but is it possible the bulb is pushed into the socket 180 degrees out? The brake filament would be powered by the running light circuit, and if there was power to the brake light it would be lighting the running light filament and you wouldn't see it...

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The globes havnt been changed so they were good before the trouble happened but ill check them tomorrow
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So how do the wires to the rear brake switch get power
Because if I can get power to the switch it may help me solve why the brake lights are fixed on?
Terry,
Did you read my post #6? There are 2 circuits that are needed to turn your brake lights on.
One circuit triggers the brake light relay. That power comes from ignition switch and goes to the brake switches. Even if the lights are stuck on, there will be no power at the switches UNLESS you turn on the ignition switch. Of course you have to test for voltage at the ends of the wires that come from the bike. Not the switch.Or check all 4 ends.
The second circuit that is needed to turn on the brake lights is the one I think is giving you grief. It is a circuit that actually carries the power (load) to the brake lights. That circuit is hot all the time, thus the issue with the light staying on all the time. The power goes through, in your case, a defective relay. That defective relay is stuck on so there is power all the time. Not just when the trigger turns it on.
Here is what I would do. Find the brake light relay in the relay/fuse box and replace it. If/when the lights go out fix the wires you cut. Check to be sure the brake lights work correctly. Take the bike for a long relaxing ride.

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You aren't supposed to be able to, but is it possible the bulb is pushed into the socket 180 degrees out? The brake filament would be powered by the running light circuit, and if there was power to the brake light it would be lighting the running light filament and you wouldn't see it...
You can't do that, it has push in bulbs that go either way.

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So how do the wires to the rear brake switch get power
Because if I can get power to the switch it may help me solve why the brake lights are fixed on?
If they didn't go off when you cut the wires it's not the switch anyway.
Do you by chance have a trailer light isolater? If so pull the fuse to it, would be an inline fuse in a wire coming off the + battery post. Otherwise it's probably the brake light relay as mentioned.

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If they didn't go off when you cut the wires it's not the switch anyway.
Do you by chance have a trailer light isolater? If so pull the fuse to it, would be an inline fuse in a wire coming off the + battery post. Otherwise it's probably the brake light relay as mentioned.
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Why not pull the relay and see if the lights go out. I do not have a manual for a bike near that new and I know from previous times that Honda moved some of the relays around. Can you point him at the correct one.

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Here is a picture of the relays and what they are for. This is from a 94 manual but I have a 2000 manual and it is the exact same. Relay #2 is for the stop lights. I would swap it with the #5 relay which is for the air pump.
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