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In 2003, there were over 2.3 million miles of pipelines in the U.S. carrying natural gas, and hazardous liquids (chiefly petroleum and refined petroleum products, as well as chemicals and hydrogen).


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I'd surly take my odds on a pipeline over truck and trains

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I'd surly take my odds on a pipeline over truck and trains
Exactly. How many times have we seen in the news of a train derailment and a hazardous liquid spilled? A tanker truck over turning and the liquid spilled?
Good welders can make it possible for a perfect seal of the pipe joints.


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Exactly. How many times have we seen in the news of a train derailment and a hazardous liquid spilled? A tanker truck over turning and the liquid spilled?
Good welders can make it possible for a perfect seal of the pipe joints.


That was my point in my OP. I worked for a RR for 38 years, I know a bit about derailments . . . . . .








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Exactly. How many times have we seen in the news of a train derailment and a hazardous liquid spilled? A tanker truck over turning and the liquid spilled?
Good welders can make it possible for a perfect seal of the pipe joints.
The pipe line joints aren't hand welded anymore.All the high priced welders do now is set up a machine that does the welding.

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Pipelines and railroads DO NOT deliver goods to the customer. No gas stations are fed by pipelines. The railroad has a terrible on time rating. If you want something delivered to the customer or your local gas station you get it there by truck. There will always be accidents due to human error or mechanical failure no matter the method of delivery, but trucks deliver the goods everybody uses on a day to day basis. Most large truck crashes are caused by 4 wheelers.

I drive a gasoline tanker on the interstate on a daily basis for over 15 years now with 21+ years of over all truck driving experience and have not had a crash or roll over. No loss of product to the environment.

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either way the oil is going to move across the country

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if its in politics its more complicated than you think.

left says its not environmentally friendly and the right says it will give americans jobs. both are supposedly bs claims.

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Pipelines will leak. Imagine a underground pressurized leak over a period of years under self-inspection and reporting...
1000 gallon surface spill is nothing..

Absurd to evacuate for a 1K gal. crude spill in the middle of no(real)where.



Who has the biggest vested interest in not having oil leaks? I know! The people who own the dam oil that's being moved!


I'm pretty sure that over the past 100+ years of oil exploration and transport, the industry has developed methods of monitoring pipeline pressure and/or input/output volumes to specifically watch for leaks.


Obama's blocking of the pipeline is purely and simply a pay-off to his buddy Warren Buffet, whose BNSF railroad (a much more environmentally hazardous way to move oil, plus much less efficient than pipeline) would lose a lot of revenue out of the Bakken Basin in western North Dakota.


I share this video with lots of self-described "environmentalists." Carlin was hardly a conservative, but he really disliked bullsh*t! Contains some salty language.


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The train involved in the Lac-Mégantic rail disaster was carrying Bakken oil from North Dakota. We now know it is a lot more volatile than advertised by the shippers.


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