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Here in Texas it is easy to obtain a ccw but the restrictions on where you can carry are crazy. Anytime I go into town I just leave my gun at home because I have gotten out of my car, maybe had to walk a block or two and than find out where I am trying to go has a restriction against carrying.
In my short time in Texas I only saw one place that prohibited guns( besides the National Parks buildings)
Don't know about TX laws but in FL if you possess a gun in a place that display"no guns" the only thing they or cops could do is to ask you to leave the premises. In all my 4 years since I carry a gun here I yet have to see such a place. One has to remember the key word for carrying a gun in a place the prohibits it: " knowingly".
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Unfortunately, you will still have to adhere to each state's magalip capacity restrictions.
NOt so sure

(2) The term `handgun' includes any magazine for use in a
handgun and any ammunition loaded into the handgun or its
magazine. (copied from HR38 bill)

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i Feel itís just a matter of time before most states approve ď open carry ď
My opinion is that open carry serves no purpose except to piss off the anti gun people who are shaking in their boots when they see a gun.
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FWIW, the Hudson house bill had a provision for non-resident CCWs to apply so if you are in a non-issuing area, you could get a non-resident CCW (e.g. from AZ) and then use it in your own state (the senate bill did not have this provision). This will really pi$$ off states like California and other anti-2A states. Hopefully this clause survives the review process for those people in non-issuing areas.
I went over this bill quite a few times and never saw such provision.
But people from California and NJ find it some place.
Are you from an antigun state?

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I hope it does come to fruition without being too badly mutilated. At my age it's becoming a real PITA to keep all the individual state codes straight... LOL

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Yea it would be nice to have just one law to cover the whole nation. The way it is now you don't know from state to state or even city to town. I was at a pubic med clinic a couple of months back to get a free flue shot. They came out and made all people waiting to leave the waiting room. Moved us to another area in the building. I went out the back door and went around to the front main entrance to catch a smoke. Cop's all over the place. They soon came out with a guy in handcuffs and took him away. I asked one cop what's going on. Well this guy had come into the clinic carrying and I guess someone noticed and called the cops. Here outside there was a sign against anyone other than cops carrying a gun. I guess he did not see it on his way in. Here in Texas it is easy to obtain a ccw but the restrictions on where you can carry are crazy. Anytime I go into town I just leave my gun at home because I have gotten out of my car, maybe had to walk a block or two and than find out where I am trying to go has a restriction against carrying. Now I have to go back to the car, lock it in the glove box and then go back to finish what I came to do. More and more places are putting up these signs in town. There really is a need to do something about a national law that applies all over and removes most restrictions save for a very few.
The only place locally I know of that prohibits it is the medical clinic. I am a bit nervous while in the waiting room.

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NOt so sure

(2) The term `handgun' includes any magazine for use in a
handgun and any ammunition loaded into the handgun or its
magazine. (copied from HR38 bill)
Hudson was on Fox Snooze this week talking about HR 38. He said you still have to follow the laws of the state and he referenced 8 rounds in New York. I am not up to speed on New York capacity limits.


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I went over this bill quite a few times and never saw such provision.
But people from California and NJ find it some place.
Are you from an antigun state?
Yep, I live in a very anti-2A state where you can be imprisoned for saying the wrong pronoun, but can murder a women in public with a stolen weapon and not be charged for it if you are in a protected class.

Here is a link to HR 38 and the highlighted applicable excerpt. It is written in tortured cryptic language.

Hudson supposedly used the language "A STATE" versus "YOUR STATE" to allow for non-resident CCWs.

The "or" section following the highlighted section applies to constitutional carry states where permits are not required.

I had questioned Hudson on his FB page months ago and he confirmed his bill included non-resident CCW provisions. This provision my get stripped out as it makes its way through DC.

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“ß 926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms “(a) Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof (except as provided in subsection (b)) and subject only to the requirements of this section, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, who is carrying a valid identification document containing a photograph of the person, and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, in any State that—
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...y+act%22%5D%7D

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If the non-resident CCW provision survives the DC pork/soul-trading sessions, the following benefits maybe applicable.

Get a non-resident CCW in a state that has:

- long times between renewals (e.g. CA is every 2 years, AZ is every 5 years).
- better application and renewal rates potentially saving hundreds or thousands of $$$. (e.g. AZ)
- does not limit the number you may carry. (e.g. AZ)
- does not document which firearms you may carry. (e.g. AZ)
- actually sends you renewal notifications as reminders. (e.g. AZ)
- does not require fees and documentation changes every time you change firearms. (e.g. AZ)
- does not restrict firearms to a dwindling list of "on roster" handguns. (e.g. AZ)
- does not take months or years to submit and process an application. (e.g. AZ)


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Judged by 12 or carried by 6. That's my philosophy!

My home state, Texas, carries reciprocity into most of the states I've ventured into.

If you think I stopped and put my gun up in Alabama, back in the day when it was illegal and I was travelling east.

Then you're the one that's crazy.

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