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Question for you that ride or lead a loosely formed group of folks, i.e. friends or co-workers.

I lead a band of merry folks, generally4 to 8 bikes. A few of them and often those riding second and third have trouble keeping up with the pace. This is often because they are looking around and not paying attention to the road or group. I try to ride at least the speed limit or a couple miles over it to keep people from running over us from the rear.

Does anyone have a diplomatic way to bring attention to the problems we are experiencing with out stepping on toes. One of the couples is in my Sunday school class and I work with another one of them.

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I thought Ricky and I did a dang good job keeping up with you when we went to Phenix City:P:P:P





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Why not just open up a discussion about safety and how this problem and many others can create safety issues?

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Hey Bashful........There is a fellow wanting to go to the Rally.......he wants to camp, I told him not to worry there was plenty of room at your room

Group riding does take a special kind of attention and skill. Most of us who have rode in a group a lot I suppose we just adjust......and do not seem to get out of place.

I would simply have a simple well meaning heart to heart talk with them. When you are leading a group the main concern is among all the other things you have to think about is the safety of everyone involved. So I think just a simple honest talk is the way to go.

It is a problem sometimes when folks are inexperienced or just inattentive. You want them to stay closed up somewhat.....so you can move through traffic and lights without a lot of separation and catchup.

I generally never exceed the speed limit....even with a small group, those in the back do at times have to exceed the speed limit to stay up with the group.

If at a 4 way stop.....two at a time is all that can really go......I just find a good spot up ahead and pull over and wait........we all work together on that......and merge back into the group......as at a stoplight......if half the group passes ....the light changes.....I pull over.....wait for them.

Everyone knows the route......that way if some idiot in a car splits the group in heavy traffic.....I try to watch for that too and slow down.......but if they do get separated....they can gradually catch up....no need for heroics and risky passing and high speeds.

I take a break about every hour and a half.....simply keeps everyone more alert.....get a cold drink....all that kind of thing.

Seems no matter what the speed limit.......or even if you go over the speed limit....those idiot in the cars always want to run 80 mph. It is a real pain in the butt on those scenic two lane roads....which is why we ride to begin with......again...watching for gravel or sand or hazards.......I find a place and pull over.

Not all riders have a CB.......but do find that the most valuable tool in a group ride.

Well let me shut up.......just talk to them.....honestly.......If I am acting like an dummy, I would want someone to come talk to me......I will not get mad or act stupid.....I want the group to be safe......so I would want someone to say now look stupid....but do not call them stupid.....okay for me........not for them.......... Kit



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I generally don't ride with a group, (only because there is no one to ride with) the one time that I tried, I too, had a hard time judging my pace. It does take practice and not just attentiveness so I would suggest talking to your less experienced members. They may not realize how they affect the riders behind them.

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The way I see it, "ride your own ride". Have plans on the next stop, and let people do what they want. You are out there to enjoy, so do it!

Besides, a rider with lesser skills shouldnt try to keep up with someone else...




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Hey Bashful........There is a fellow wanting to go to the Rally.......he wants to camp, I told him not to worry there was plenty of room at your room

Group riding does take a special kind of attention and skill. Most of us who have rode in a group a lot I suppose we just adjust......and do not seem to get out of place.

I would simply have a simple well meaning heart to heart talk with them. When you are leading a group the main concern is among all the other things you have to think about is the safety of everyone involved. So I think just a simple honest talk is the way to go.

It is a problem sometimes when folks are inexperienced or just inattentive. You want them to stay closed up somewhat.....so you can move through traffic and lights without a lot of separation and catchup.

I generally never exceed the speed limit....even with a small group, those in the back do at times have to exceed the speed limit to stay up with the group.

If at a 4 way stop.....two at a time is all that can really go......I just find a good spot up ahead and pull over and wait........we all work together on that......and merge back into the group......as at a stoplight......if half the group passes ....the light changes.....I pull over.....wait for them.

Everyone knows the route......that way if some idiot in a car splits the group in heavy traffic.....I try to watch for that too and slow down.......but if they do get separated....they can gradually catch up....no need for heroics and risky passing and high speeds.

I take a break about every hour and a half.....simply keeps everyone more alert.....get a cold drink....all that kind of thing.

Seems no matter what the speed limit.......or even if you go over the speed limit....those idiot in the cars always want to run 80 mph. It is a real pain in the butt on those scenic two lane roads....which is why we ride to begin with......again...watching for gravel or sand or hazards.......I find a place and pull over.

Not all riders have a CB.......but do find that the most valuable tool in a group ride.

Well let me shut up.......just talk to them.....honestly.......If I am acting like an dummy, I would want someone to come talk to me......I will not get mad or act stupid.....I want the group to be safe......so I would want someone to say now look stupid....but do not call them stupid.....okay for me........not for them.......... Kit

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The best way I have found is ..at the start of the ride, group everybody together and tell them if a rider in front is causing a gap in the group by going too slow then PASS him ..I take out many many groups ,sometimes up to 50 bikes at a time and as Silverfox and motorcyclepete can tell you ,I take no prisoners when it come to people disrupting the group ,I know they do not do it intensionally ,but it can be frustrating for the lead rider and for the people behind ,So JUST PASS and they will soon learn to keep up with the group or do their own thing ,,They can cause an accident ,Ciaran

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In our group the rule is: forget about the one in front of you... keep your eye on the one behind you. Always keep that one in your mirror.

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Yep.......pass them.......two weekends ago we had a ride with 37 riders. This one fellow about a third of the way back on a trike.....would poke along......soon there would be three or four cars riding in the group........I got so aggravated at him. Finally did pass him.......saw the others take my cue and do the same. I think it was all those badges and GWRRA pins weighing him down.....come on fellows I am just acting up....I think those 50 pound vests are kinda cute on the girls.........Kit

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