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I just read an article that said I should not be using a heel-toe shifter on my '02 1800. The article stated that a heel-toe shifter could damage the tranny - bend the shift forks. I use the Kuryakyn floorboards with the Kur. shifter. Has anyone had any problems with either the Kury or other brand shifters?

I really like the heel-toe shifter, but If it's gonna damage the tranny I'll switch back in a heartbeat.


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Personally I don't see how anyone could use a HT shifter and shift correctly, I tried the one that came on my 83 and quickly got rid of it and the floorboards. There has been some discussion of the HT shifter being at least partly responsible for the tranny problems.

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I like a heel/toe shift. Have had them on all my bikes, and would not be happy with a standard peg and toe shift.

Used as intended, used normally I would challenge anyone to prove to me that a heel/toe shift harms the transmission.

As with all things it is just common sense. I think sometime a shift fork is damaged with a heel/toe shift under a couple conditions. One is shifting the bike in or out of gear with it not running. You know how it will sometimes not want to shift into neutral or will get stuck in second gear. The motor is not running, nothing is rotating, so if one gets rough with the shift, sure damage could occur.

Sometimes you will see folks arrive at a stop light in a high gear, they stop and stomp it down miss a gear...mess around.....that sort of thing.

If used with just a firm easy shift I do not think it would ever lead to any damage. Now if one were to stomp on it all the time the extra leverage when it will not go in or out of gear because of improper operation on the part of the rider, yes maybe damage can result.

I think that is what you have to look at, use it with common sense and care and you will be fine.

I have used them for years. I simply use the weight of my foot to shift with, I do not stomp on the shift, and I always start the bike before attempting to shift.

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You are right about that as always Kit, I have seen guys stomping on a shifter like that,IT AIN'T GOING TO SHIFT STUPID, motorcycle transmissions have to be turning to shift.
I still don't like heal/toe shifters, reminds me of a trail 90 or cub 50.

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Has anyone ever tried or know of anyone who tried to put in a floorboard and still have use of the toe shift. I've been riding for the past 36 years and don't feel like trying to adapt to a new way of shifting (it's challenging enough getting used to the 'wing).

I would like to go to a floorboard on my 83, but not the H/T shift.

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I have a 1981 Gl1100 interstate with 90,000 + miles and it has a heel to toe shifter. Never been a problem at all. Ever.

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I have a heel/toe on both my 1100 and the 1500. I prefer to shift that way. When riding a standard bike the shifting feels wrong.

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I don't like H&T shifters but if a rider doesn't stomp on it and doesn't keep pressure on the pedal while riding and not shifting it shouldn't do any damage. Too many people use them with no problems to think that there's much risk of damaging the shift forks. Those can be damaged with the regular shift lever ifone is a bit cloddish.

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Has anyone ever tried or know of anyone who tried to put in a floorboard and still have use of the toe shift. I've been riding for the past 36 years and don't feel like trying to adapt to a new way of shifting (it's challenging enough getting used to the 'wing).

I would like to go to a floorboard on my 83, but not the H/T shift.
I've never seen 'Wing boards that would let a full-sized feller sneak his toe under the stock shifter peg. This 1200 Aspy is my first H/T shifter, and I was used to it in a week. It's really not a big deal. Get the boards, and try the heel toe. I think it's all personal preference.

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I have tried both of them and prefer the heal/toe shifter. I agree with Kit that nice easy shifts are what you are looking for. Not slamming it changing gears.

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