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One of my biggest fears was almost realizedtoday. To me one of the most helpless things might be seeing a car bareing down in the mirrors and no indication of stopping. Today was a near miss for me thankfully but I was wondering. Maybe someone who took an advanced safety course could answer this. What is the best plan of action if you see unavoidable rear end collision about to happen? I've considered baling out but that might not be a good plan. What if the driver swerves that way to avoid the collision at the last second. Then I wondered if bracing the front wheel against the car ahead? Is there a suugested action if rear end collision with your bike is enevitible?

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I have not taken any advanced courses but I will offer what I try to do. I normally try to stop at least 1/2 car length or more behind the vehicle in front of me. I try to look for quick exit routes before I come to a stop and that will determine which lane I use. (I run scenarios through my head constantly about "what if" and try tothink abbout what I would do.)Sometimes the right lane offers the best (low or no curb, or right turn lane) and sometimes the left is better. I try to avoid the middle lane as it is easy to get trapped with no way out. I also try to keep an eye on the rear views constantly until the light turns green. I also keep the bike in gear in case I have to take off quick. If I am the first and only, I may think about taking off through the red light and possibly trying to turn. I'd rather deal with trying to explain my actions to the nice officer than take a ride to the local hospital or morgue. You have to think outside the box. Don't worry about lanes, red lights, sidewalks, etc... Do what you have to do to get out of the way.

I also try not to be the last vehicle in the lane waiting for the light to change. I will plan on making that happen long before I come up to the red light. I try to have at least 1 or 2 cars behind me as a buffer.



Bracing the wheel on the car ahead is absolutely out. That will pretty much assure you of getting crushed. Just try and make the right choices before getting to that red light to make sure that a rear end collision isn't inevitable.


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ph, has the correct answers.

If you take the ERC you will learn a couple things such as leave yourself an escape route. Keep the bike in gear ready to go just in case this type of thing comes up. Monitor your mirrors for the idiot who is getting ready to take you out. Waiting on an intersection is not break time, it's time to monitor your surroundings and make sure you survive.

I also agree with ph about lane choice, sometimes you have to take the center lanes, when this happens leave extra room and plan an escape route. I also do this while riding, I always look for escapes just in case.

once again I agree with ph, putting yourself against the car in front would be certain death if you get hit, there's no time cushion or space for that matter. Besides, if you don't get hit, you'll have to explain to the guy who's car you've been resting against what's going on, lol

Take the time and invest in a safety course. I do it every two years and each time I learn or re-learn something beneficial. It's well worth the price for the range time you get and the reminders of all the safety stuff.


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+1 on what PH said.

To that I will add that I stay back the 1 car length and then I point the bike at my intended escape route.

This has the added benefit of positioning the rear view mirror in clear view of what is behind you.

I have used my "escape route" twice in my riding career. That full 1 car length open space I left was enough for the villain to wake up and slide to a stop w/o hitting the car in front. But, I would have received a nasty blow had I still been there.

On another instance on a 3 lane divided highway, I was following my usual 2 or 3 cars back at 70 mph in the far left lane. I noticed the traffic in front coming to a full stop. I already knew there was a car following me "too close" and I took my "escape route" and went into the median and stopped there.

Before I came to a full stop the car behind me slammed into the rear of the car I had been following and never applied brakes.

Plenty of cellphones appeared in hands all around me, I just kept going on and then saw what was wrong ahead. Another rear ender accident in my lane.

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Then I wondered if bracing the front wheel against the car ahead?
This would be your worst possible reaction. The bike is far too fragile to save you, it would instantly pivot the front wheel and you would be pinned between the bumpers of both vehicles and you would very likely loose your legs at a minimum.

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When stopping at a red light,(no car in front) I hug the left side of the lane as far as practical to avoid a car coming along side of me. (which has happened) I do the same thing if there is a car in front of me. I'm also (as mentioned previously) looking for an escape route. Bazaar as it may sound, I would rather be "side swiped" than "sandwiched" between two cars. My biggest recommendation? Install a "back-off" system of flashing and "cris-crossing" brake lights, when you apply the brakes. Hold a brake during the stop to keep flashing the lights. It works!

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Flash your brake light(s) as fast as you can. Better yet buy a brake light modulator to do it for you.
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Another thing I do is flash my brake lights when I see someone approaching from behind. Some drivers don't
seem to realize there is a bike behind another vehicle, especially at night when there are a lot of other lights to compete with.

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i try to leave 1 1/2 to 2 car lengths and try to pick out my fast exit path before stopping.

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That is the great thing about lane splitting, virtually no sitting at the back of queues of traffic, in the UK we just go around, or between the cars, to the front of the queue.

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