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Looking for warm fuzzy on front tire choice

Polling seniors opinions: First, thank you for your patience. I would like to hear the comments of Seniors who have experienced many Goldwing miles and many tire changes avoiding the word 'best'. What is your choice 'today'. I have researched the threads and reviews from this and other forums. I have read good and bad reviews on all tires except two, the michelin and the avon. I have read a few posts about avon having poorer wet traction. I have so far not read any bad posts or reviews on michelin front tires. They are a bit cheaper than the avon venom. For price/value I am leaning toward the michelin pilot active. What is the advantage of a mich pilot rear 'running backwards' over a standard michelin front? Is the gain longer tire life from deeper tread? I understand the tire stress issues of running it backwards. The cost is comparable for a rear running backward and just buying a front. I don't mind thinking out of the box(I wish I could disable that emissions sub filter) if there is a point. Do some of you do this for longer tire life or superior handling?
I am delighted to be able to gain from your experienced wisdom and history with the wing. Thanks again. Newcomer MD

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I like the Dunlop E3s some don't like them ..Dunlop is also coming out with a new tire on the Dunlop Elite 3 ..will be called (MT Multi-Tread ) it has a strip of harder compound on the center of the tire ..were you spend most of your time riding ..at least most of us do ...the sides will be the regular compound

..This tire is specifiably designed for the Honda Goldwings
it will be made in 180/60R16 for the 1800s and 160/80B16 for the 1500s there is also extra wide custom sizes 120/70R21 240/40R18 250/40R18
the MT tires will be coming out in March I think the Dunlop guy said weather or not they perform as advertised is yet to be seen ..i would think they would and my next set will certainly be MT Dunlop Elite3

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Battleaxe rear tire turned backwards and mounted upon the front rim, added ceramic beads and this tire handles better and smoother than any tire I have ever run on any bike in my life. Twice the tread depth and a stronger tire too, it should last twice as long as a front tire would at less cost than a regular front tire for my bike. The center groove on the tire is diagonal back and forth and refused to get caught by the rain grooves and tar snakes too.

As a side note the EIII on my rear is one of the worst tires I have ever run, noisy as all get out!

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Well, on the 1800, so far the Michlien Activa rear tire on the front has been outstanding compared to the E3s that I've used before on this bike, and the 1500 I owned previously before. I've put over 8,000 miles on it so far, and it still has over 3/4 tread left, where the E3s would be 3/4 or more worn out. It is also quieter than the E3. Of course, I'm using the Centramatic balancers with the Activa and that might have something to do with the excellent tire wear, since I was using normal wheel weights prior to the last set of tires. As far as wet handling, both are about the same, and have never had a problem with either in the rain.
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I take it you are referring to you GL1500 in the Avatar?
I have 12,000 + miles on my Pilot Active Rear backwards, on the front and hardly any wear noticeable, very slight cupping starting to show. It handles real well, wet or dry, just got back from a ride of 250 miles today with some very spirited twisties of the back country east of here in the mountains.
My last set of E3s at 10,000 miles I pulled as I was headed on a planned 15,000-20,000 miles trip and didn't want to have to change in a thousand miles (or less) and they were cupped very bad, they handled OK but at that mileage I had enough of them.
I replaced the E3s with the Battle Ax rear on the front backwards, got 17,500 miles out of it but.... it cupped badly from 8,000 miles on and at @ 10,000 miles, after a jaunt on the Tail of the Dragon, we hit some back country 4 lane in NC and I had it up at 105 and got the front end wagging the rear, not good! Backed it down to 95 to clear that slapping away! From then on it got worse and near the end I was getting wagging in the corners at 80 mph.
I definitely like the Pilot Active better.
I run my tires at 42psi front and 44psi rear(M/C tire) 52-58psi rear Vredestein and the pressure is checked weekly at most.

I haven't gone to the Metzler ME880 since the 1100 and had 2 "catastrophic tread failures- Metzler reps words) And a friend's 1100 have 3 of the same results, major delamination of the rear tire tread, big chunks MIA.

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OK, I'll bite. What size Mich Pilot Active is it that you're running backwards on the 1500? Links to good prices?

I'm a bit gun-shy about the Battle-Ax. Too many reviews indicating problems once they get a bunch of miles on them.

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OK, I'll bite. What size Mich Pilot Active is it that you're running backwards on the 1500? Links to good prices?

I'm a bit gun-shy about the Battle-Ax. Too many reviews indicating problems once they get a bunch of miles on them.
130/70-18 $109.88

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Prod...FZCDQgodIB0A3w

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Hey, that's a nice looking tire! And the price fits, too. Thanks.

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Thanks all! Thats the one Newday. Any high speed wobble or problems as a result of turning the tire bacwards?

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