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I have a 2010 Gold Wing. Tire size is 195/55/16.
What tire would y'all suggest and what speed rating?

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non RF 195/55R-16 Yokohama AVID ENVigor is what I just went to. I just finished an Iron Butt ride of 2000 miles in 48 hours on this tire. Great way to break it in (stayed in Mobile, AL! 1,000 miles in 24 hours at that point for me).

I love this tire! I have been to Kansas and rode some hard leaned, faster than speed limit corners on this tire! Did the change to Darkside about a month ago and 4,000 miles later, I would recommend it! Started at 32 psi and was ok, but now using 40 psi and happy there. Might experiment more, but 40 works great! I haven't scrapped my pegs yet! The MT would have scrapped by now on corners I was taking. Bike leans farther now and I haven't pushed the envelope yet! Tire feels planted and no issues.

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Yes, I saw someone else on another forum that just went to this tire also and they were liking it.
My rear is getting close to replacement.
Was it a H or V speed rating?
Did you install the tire on the rim or did you bring it somewhere?

In Mobile, I bet you were glad when you left. LOL

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Came in around 10 pm and was on the road at 3:30 am heading to New Orleans. Cool area to ride, but didn't hang around long enough to know if I was in a bad area or not.

I am on the other forum and your name ring a bell. Our dealer in town does CT on motorcycle rims, but I did it cheaper going to a regular tire shop and told them it was for a trailer. They laughed and said the tire was too big, but they would try it. In 5 minutes they had it done and they were proud of how smooth it went. $15 is what it cost me verses $40 at dealer and got same day, on spot service. Dealer was a drop off and ready next day or two.

I am now installing metal valve stems and TireGage TPMS. I might try installing this on my own with tire spoons I already have from doing dirt bike tires. It looks like it isn't hard with proper tools and technique.

Bought my tire at Tirerack and received in a day or two. Cheaper than MT and working great! Not even afraid in corners! A lot is mental. People freak too easy. I haven't crashed and I am way over the speed limit with things I have done on it. Still here.

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Front Tire: Rear tire design Michelin Pilot ACTIV 130/70-18 M/C 63H
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Your bike did not come with tpms?

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2006 didn't have that feature. I think '10 is the first year with it. For $112, it is worth the try and see what you think of Darkside. Give it time to adjust and relax yourself. I took to the change immediately. No different than jumping onto someone else's bike and learning it. Same thing. The bike is the bike. I do notice the bike will follow road changes a bit more than a MT, but to me this is no big deal. I thought the corners would feel weird, but really no big issue. Don't even think about it anymore. Rode 68 miles in rain thru TN. Curvy and fast traffic. Had no issues. Never had a scare like I felt with the E3 in rain.

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Honorary Kanwings/Wild Rhinos

Double Darkside #1555
Rear Tire: NRF 195/55R-16 Yokohama AVID ENVigor
Front Tire: Rear tire design Michelin Pilot ACTIV 130/70-18 M/C 63H
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I have the same tire except mine is a run flat. So far so good. Like the tire. I bought it through online tired.com

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Why do some people say don't us runflat and others do or use them! A runflat would seem a good idea in desert or other out of the way area. Is it a clearance thing when the tire is flat or a handling thing?

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If the tire blew, they feel you have more of a chance that the tire won't crash you. I have not personally had a tire blow out, so I don't know the effect of a flat on a motorcycle. This is why I am putting a TPMS on the bike. If I hit a nail and air is dropping, I hope to get pulled off safely before crazy bike shaking happens. I personally felt a non RF suited me. If I lost my front wheel, I would think the handling would be crazy. Not experienced with it, but I will do the best I can do when the day happens.

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Current Bike: 2006 GL1800 with Comfort and Navi

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Bun Burner 1500 (1500 miles in 36 Hours)
SaddleSore 2000 (2000 miles in 48 Hours)
Completed May 11, 2014
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Completed May 16, 2015

Honorary Kanwings/Wild Rhinos

Double Darkside #1555
Rear Tire: NRF 195/55R-16 Yokohama AVID ENVigor
Front Tire: Rear tire design Michelin Pilot ACTIV 130/70-18 M/C 63H
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I have had a tire go out at freeway speed riding 2-up. It was more of a problem when I slowed down. The back wheel kept sliding out from uderneath. The wosrt part, besides not being clost to anything, was the shoulder was gravel and narrow and the freeway had a lot of traffic. A couple cans of fix-a-flat and a tire plug got me to where I was going so the tire could be replaced.
I run the run flat because that tire was recommended and the run-flat feature is one of the benefits of a car tire. My bike does have the on board TPMS, but it is the factory one so I don't know pressures. I have about 3,000 miles of fall and spring riding on it and so far I don't notice much difference from the MT. I hope to do some long rides 2-up soon. Nice weather has to be coming soon!

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