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I didn't know about your core temp problem, John, but the info,here is good to know !
Summer temps,here in Arkansas,usually hit 100+,so,I'm Definitely going to try to get a couple for the wife,and I !

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I think that if I did not have the core temp problem that I have now, the evap vests would work pretty good for me in dry climates.

I'm thinking that the range of 11 - 22 degrees cooling effect is just like the swamp coolers that I grew up with in our homes. On humid days, they just made the house sultry and unbearable. On dry days, you would actually feel cold if you set in front of one of them.

In Mesa, AZ where I lived for 20 years, I had a double stage evap cooler that we kept on the back porch. It was a 3400 cfm unit and with it running, that porch was cool from side to side on an 80 foot width. And that w/o any screens, it was just a covered porch that was 15 ft overhang along the full 80 width of the house.

here in Okie and Arkie land, I am thinking that the Phase Change vest is going to be superior for me on humid days, as it does not rely on evaporation to get the cooling effect. It is the Phase Change of the crystal inside the packs.

at first I was tempted to order extra packs.... I left the order up on the screen and took a nap.... came back and got to thinking, Hey!! 2.5 hours is longer than the gas tanks can go... we have to fill up anyway, we always take a walk around the store property to unlock the kinks in our muscles, and I usually sip on some cold water.

I will have my box trailer behind me with a 40 qt Igloo ice chest, so just stuff the Cool Vest in the Igloo, then fill up the gas tank, take the walk, visit the potty room, and by then, the vest will be ready for another Cool run... so why spend $130 more for the extra packs?

Nearly all gas stops have ice in bags available, so a refill on that is taken care of.
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I took a trip 2 years ago that took me through 14 states, 11 states had temps over 100 degrees. I used the evaporative vest and had a good experience with it. It would last about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of good cooling. I would stop then and drain a red Dixie cup of melted ice from the cooler and pour it on the vest that was laid out on the trailer....that got my body temp down quick. With those daytime temps the ice in the cooler always kept up with my ice water needs of the vest. Sometimes it gave me a shiver when first putting on the vest and that really felt good.

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John your right about the evap type of vests. They work great as long as you have low humidity and the wind coming through your jacket. My son-in-law uses the phase change vest and loves them. He has the extra inserts and keeps them in the cooler since they take several minutes to recharge. He will just stop and change them when he feels uncomfortable.

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John your right about the evap type of vests. They work great as long as you have low humidity and the wind coming through your jacket. My son-in-law uses the phase change vest and loves them. He has the extra inserts and keeps them in the cooler since they take several minutes to recharge. He will just stop and change them when he feels uncomfortable.

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Since I have the Tulsa Tall windshield, most of the air is prevented from hitting my face and body.... that is the primary reason I decided to go with the Phase Change technology.... I debated on getting the spare set of inserts, but, if I have to order more, I can at anytime.
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Use the Evap vest I bought from Cyclegear along with their heat out base layer and a mesh jacket. Worked well with the stock shield on my 89. I live in NM which is dry like your area though and not sure how well it would work in humidity. I saw somewhere where there was a jacket that was attached to a container you packed with ice and had some sort of blower. Seemed like a lot of pain especially if you have corded intercom.

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I have several "photo" vests with multiple pockets. Why couldn't you just buy the packs for 129 and use the pockets on your own vest instead of paying 199 for a vest and pack?

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Never heard of 'phase change' so looked it up. Looks like you need access to a freezer to keep these puppies working. Evaporative vests work because when water evaporates, it takes a bunch of heat with it. It's 1/2 of the refrigeration cycle - how your fridge and AC work. On bike trips, if you have access to water along the way, evaporation is the way to go. There's nothing magic about an evaporative vest other than it's designed to hold a bit more water than your shirt. But you can go to a rest area bathroom, soak your shirt, jeans, skivvies - anything close to you and when the water evaporates it'll cool you off. Best is to cover with mesh to keep the sun off you too but still allow evaporation to occur. Also, the armour isn't a bad thing . If it's just semi-hot, I'll wear shorts under mesh pants. Got armour, got air movement so evaporation of sweat. Still get the heat from the cylinder heads though but I'm determined to find a solution to that. When it's really hot, I get about an hour of cooling from my evaporative vest.

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Never heard of 'phase change' so looked it up. Looks like you need access to a freezer to keep these puppies working. .

not actually, this is from their FAQ section, and believe me, I looked to verify that I could make these things work before I spent the money. Evaporative vests are not going to keep me cool enough in 100+ heat. The Tulsa Tall is going to block 90% or more of the oncoming wind, in 90+ heat, I have to take my Mesh Jacket OFF to keep cool enough, and that is something I'm not willing to do.

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How long does it take to charge the packs?
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You can charge/recharge the RPCM cooling packs using a refrigerator, a freezer, or container of ice water (basically anything colder than 59F) Ice and water is fastest, but other ways work equally well. Ice water method will take about 20-30 minutes, freezer about an hour and refrigerator a few hours to overnight.
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