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So, after this thoughtful discussion, I wonder how many people have changed their view or their behavior?

It is like a good political debate, which changes people's thinking!


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So, after this thoughtful discussion, I wonder how many people have changed their view or their behavior?

It is like a good political debate, which changes people's thinking!
Just think, this is only the first discussion of many for the year on the subject. Each one is sure to have its share of derogatory comments (idiots, fools, stupid, dumb, etc...) about members that choose to ride without a helmet. But not once is a similar comment made towards those that choose to wear a helmet.

Yep a real "family atmosphere"...
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yeah, it is akin to deciding to vote for that woman candidate or the one with a hair piece
Or Dumb or Dumber, a country with over 300 M and this is the best we come up with. Somethings wrong but I wont get political here.
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Just think, this is only the first discussion of many for the year on the subject. Each one is sure to have its share of derogatory comments (idiots, fools, stupid, dumb, etc...) about members that choose to ride without a helmet. But not once is a similar comment made towards those that choose to wear a helmet.

Yep a real "family atmosphere"...
Maybe it's because none of those comments apply to those who choose to wear a helmet. I don't play Russian roulette either.

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Incident.....

My first awareness was of spitting into gravel inches from my face, and being rather smug that there wasn’t any blood in it. I pushed myself up to my knees, noticing that one of my gloves was torn and full of blood. I pulled it off, and shook my hand trying to fling the blood away. A few yards from me my wife wept softly, the bones of her left forearm broken and exposed.

“That’s not good,” I said, to no one in particular. “That’s not good at all.”

A young man in a Michigan State Police uniform knelt in front of me.

“Sir, where were you going? Where were you headed today?”

I looked into his face, and started grinning.....I couldn’t help it.

“Damned if I know,” I said. “I know I should know, but I don’t.....what happened?”

He jotted something in a small leather-covered notebook, nodded, and looked back at me.

“Sir, where did you spend last night?”

I kept grinning at him. “You got me there, too...... can you spell concussion? What happened?”

“You hit a deer, sir. Medical help is on the way.... I notice that you have a concealed weapons permit in your wallet. Were you carrying a weapon today, sir?”

“Naw,” I said, chuckling at the officer. “Don’t carry it when we go up to Canada. They get all nervous up at the border, you know.... and we’re going there later. I do have a twelve gauge shotgun, though, half in each saddlebag. Winchester Model 12.....breaks in half real good.....You want me to get it? What happened?”

The officer put his hand on my shoulder. “No. We’ll take care of it. Lie easy now, help is coming.”

“Hey,” I said. “That’s my wife there, she’s hurt bad.....let’s put her in your car and take her to the hospital!”

I started to rise to my feet, but a deep burning ache began in my side, and then it got worse and didn’t go away.

“Ah, Jesus....!” I moaned.

The young officer pushed me down, and his voice was urgent now, more commanding.

“Sir... lie still! You were a collision with a deer, and both you and your wife are seriously injured. Ambulances are coming, you can hear them now. Hear them?”

I looked into his face, and grinned again. I just couldn’t help it.

“East Duluth,” I said triumphantly.

He looked perplexed. “What? What did you just say?”

“East Duluth....that’s where we were last night.... motel.....east Duluth.....got one right, huh? What happened”

He smiled at me, I think, and rested his hand on my shoulder again.

“Good, that’s real good. Be still now, they are just pulling up.”

I sank down on my thighs and ankles again, and looked up at the fair weather clouds racing across the Michigan skies, listening to my wife’s gentle weeping and to the oncoming sirens.

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Maybe it's because none of those comments apply to those who choose to wear a helmet. I don't play Russian roulette either.
I don't think it applies to anyone... if one needs to resort to names to prove a point, is the point worth proving?
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You are courageous sir, if I(we) were to encounter such an experience and live thru it my riding career would be over. But since I dont wear a helmet my visibility is not impeded by it and the deer alert I have on the bike keeps the deer away.
The last sentence was for entertaining value only. Did I mention that drunk driving also confuses the deer as they dont know where you are exactly headed.
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You are courageous sir, if I(we) were to encounter such an experience and live thru it my riding career would be over. But since I dont wear a helmet my visibility is not impeded by it and the deer alert I have on the bike keeps the deer away.
The last sentence was for entertaining value only. Did I mention that drunk driving also confuses the deer as they dont know where you are exactly headed.
Please don't get me wrong..... I'm not trying to force anyone to wear a helmet.... I know I can't do that, and I wouldn't want to impose my will on anybody when it comes to this sport.....or lifestyle, if you wish. What I'm trying to do is impress upon everyone the fact that both my wife and I should have died in 2007; the doctors, the Michigan Police Officer, the nurse in the car behind us.... all have said we would have died had we not been wearing full face helmets. In the nine years since the accident, we've been to Europe twice (riding the Dolomites in the Italian Alps, the Norwegian fjords!), we've been to Hawaii and rode the Hana Highway and the Haleakala road in the dark (28 miles, 10,000 elevation gain!), we've done the Cabot Trail in Cape Breton, we saw our son graduate with an Architecture degree, we saw the same son married on a beach in Hawaii, I earned my National number from the National Ski Patrol (one of the highest honors the patrol can bestow!), I've slept beside my lovely wife in a tent under starry skies for literally hundreds of nights.....I've climbed some mountains, vanquished some enemies, and bounced lovely babies on my knees.... We've done all that in the nine years since our one and only accident in 350,000 touring miles... all that..... And we would have missed all that if we hadn't been wearing our full-face helmets that one afternoon in Michigan..... No, I'm not trying to make anyone wear a helmet, but I'll beg you to.... I will do that.

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Going back to helmets; anything is better then nothing for your head protection. If you wrap a towel around your head is better then nothing. Having this stated Id like to ad that IMHO half helmets are mostly good to make one feel that he is doing something to be safe. I think they are great for transporting ones head should he get decapitated.3/4 and full face are heavy and both are noisy. My wife is reluctant to wear one. (however when on the wing both of us wear helmets me 3/4 she full face)
A good helmet is fairly expensive and under normal condition should be changed in 5 years How many of us have helmets older then that 5 years ? Bet you a lot. So even thou you wear a helmet all the time dont think you are as well protected as you should. The point is that we are the judges of how much risk we are willing to take.
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