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What to expect from my 1500

1995 GL1500se. 145,000 miles.

I purchased my wing in September of 2015. I rode it until the last ride of the season for me which was early December. Over the winter I have done significant changes to the bike that will probably change handling. I have changed the steering stem bearings and races. I have changed from E3's to double darkside (Austone drive & Battlax BT45 steer). I have changed stock fork springs to Progressive with 15w fork oil. I am replacing the stock rear shocks to Progressive 416 air for both.

I would like to have a heads up on what to expect from the bike as far as handling. This is my first wing (not my first bike) so I don't really know what these changes will do to the handling. I welcome all input.

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That's probably something nobody could describe adequately, you just have to ride it.
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If you thought it was good before , it'll be much better. It will take a bit to adjust to the darkness . You will have to tinker with tire and suspension pressures to get the feel your happy with.

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the suspension changes will make it handle like a sportbike = responsive to your input.
The tires- where are the darksiders with input??
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When I had my progressive fork springs installed it was a huge difference for the better. A year later I changed out the Steering stem bearing huge difference. I can't comment about the tires.

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new steering bearings, wheel bearings, progressive fork springs and 416 rear air shocks made my 1500 amazing in the mountains that surround my abode
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I am looking forward to riding my wing again. I am looking forward to riding a whole new bike handling wise. The Progressive 416's got here today. The install looks pretty straight forward. Thank you all for your comments.

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Lightbulb From my experience

On my '96 I did the darkside rear and the BT45 front running reverse direction. After 30,000 miles I decide it was not for me - and then sold the bike after repalcing the tires.

My set-up included the Progressive IAS450 rear shock and Progressive springs front
A new zero mile final drive installed 10K miles before the darkside experiement
Excellently maintained bike that I owned for more than 10 years and a total of 100K miles.

My experience -
Straight line starts & Stops are better -
Traction in the rain always seemed better but I go easy in the wetness
I could and did drag my pegs on the Tail of the Dragon with the Darkside set-up (double dark really)
30K + miles on the rear tire - never an issue

Adjustments made - Experimented with the rear tire pressure often - when it was low it would cause a slight weave under hard acceleration.
Find your own sweet spot - for me it was about 44psi rear on the Vredestein Comtrac tire I had (175/78)
Front tire (BT45) cupped at 11K miles and and was replaced at 19K with a EIII front bias ply - it was noisy and bouncy when cupped at low speeds
I had the bike over 100 mph many times and up to 105 once and was always stable
I used DynaBeads for balancing the tires.

Dislikes - Cornering with the Darkside rear was always a little more work.
Setting the corner and riding around it was not an option as the car tire wants to stand up - so you gotta keep steering it
I sometimes felt a "push" from the rear tire in the twistys (think racing terms) as the rear wanted to go straight as an upright flat bottom tire would as the front tried to turn
Never an issue- but that's what I felt. -
At low speeds the rear flat bottom tire would follow the cracks and potholes - sometimes steering the bike and making it more work to go slow.
As the flat bottom adjusts to un-even pavement ( --_ _ ) the tire leans over the edge and works the bike a bit - an awkward feeling.

I was often worried about the rear final drive as it wasn't getting looked at and splines lubed as often (avg 16K on rear tires previously) .
Just my own concerns about proper maintenance.

SO - Now that I am on an 1800 I will not go Darkside - I know I gotta buy tires more often than ever before.
But that is the price I am willing to pay for my bike to ride and handle the way I want it.


These are some of my experiences and opinions after a 30,000 mile test on my old 1500.
Bet wishes and ride safe -


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On my '96 I did the darkside rear and the BT45 front running reverse direction. After 30,000 miles I decide it was not for me - and then sold the bike after repalcing the tires.

My set-up included the Progressive IAS450 rear shock and Progressive springs front
A new zero mile final drive installed 10K miles before the darkside experiement
Excellently maintained bike that I owned for more than 10 years and a total of 100K miles.

My experience -
Straight line starts & Stops are better -
Traction in the rain always seemed better but I go easy in the wetness
I could and did drag my pegs on the Tail of the Dragon with the Darkside set-up (double dark really)
30K + miles on the rear tire - never an issue

Adjustments made - Experimented with the rear tire pressure often - when it was low it would cause a slight weave under hard acceleration.
Find your own sweet spot - for me it was about 44psi rear on the Vredestein Comtrac tire I had (175/78)
Front tire (BT45) cupped at 11K miles and and was replaced at 19K with a EIII front bias ply - it was noisy and bouncy when cupped at low speeds
I had the bike over 100 mph many times and up to 105 once and was always stable
I used DynaBeads for balancing the tires.

Dislikes - Cornering with the Darkside rear was always a little more work.
Setting the corner and riding around it was not an option as the car tire wants to stand up - so you gotta keep steering it
I sometimes felt a "push" from the rear tire in the twistys (think racing terms) as the rear wanted to go straight as an upright flat bottom tire would as the front tried to turn
Never an issue- but that's what I felt. -
At low speeds the rear flat bottom tire would follow the cracks and potholes - sometimes steering the bike and making it more work to go slow.
As the flat bottom adjusts to un-even pavement ( --_ _ ) the tire leans over the edge and works the bike a bit - an awkward feeling.

I was often worried about the rear final drive as it wasn't getting looked at and splines lubed as often (avg 16K on rear tires previously) .
Just my own concerns about proper maintenance.

SO - Now that I am on an 1800 I will not go Darkside - I know I gotta buy tires more often than ever before.
But that is the price I am willing to pay for my bike to ride and handle the way I want it.


These are some of my experiences and opinions after a 30,000 mile test on my old 1500.
Bet wishes and ride safe -


On your 1800 you can't go by how the 1500 felt Darksided.Just two different animals.

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I never noticed it being any harder to corner/hold a line with the Austone. Just a little practice on the different feel and it was as easy as ever. And both my boots are beveled on the outside edges from dragging on the pavement around corners...

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