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Have a 2006 Goldwing and put Synthetic oil in my bike. Have 68306 kms on the bike, just wondering if that is okay. Always use this type of oil , but it's my first Goldwing.

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The problem with synthetic is some are to slippery for our "wet" clutch system.I use Mobil1 Racing 4T 10w-40. Supposed to be safe for use with "wet" clutch.

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As long as the package does not have Friction Modifiers in it, you are good to go.

Many of us are using Rotella T6 and T5 and have been for years, no problems at all.

I am trying to find the labels that show that , the one you want has a big circle with the bottom half nearly empty.

https://www.oilspecifications.org/ar...MA_JASO_MB.php

if it is CK-4 compatible, you are good to go.



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and here is the Shell tutorial page
http://rotella.shell.com/media/2016/...portfolio.html

If it was built prior to 2016, whether it is on- or off-highway, choose CK-4 oil which directly replaces CJ-4 oils

CK-4 oils will replace today’s lubricants and will be completely backwards compatible with all current engines. They will be designed with improved oxidation resistance, shear stability and aeration control.

Note, nothing is said about Friction Modifiers or "More Efficiency"

I found this down at the bottom of the page, surprise, surprise, look what Shell owns:

Shell Lubricants companies lead the lubricants industry, supplying more than 12% of global lubricants volume. * The companies manufacture and blend products for use in consumer, heavy industrial and commercial transport applications.

The Shell Lubricants portfolio of top-quality brands includes Pennzoil®, Quaker State®, FormulaShell®, Shell TELLUS®, Shell RIMULA®, Shell ROTELLA® T, Shell SPIRAX®, Shell Gadus® and Jiffy Lube®. *Kline & Company, “Global Lubricants Industry July 2015: Market Analysis and Assessment.”

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Here are the API donuts, yes these are called donuts. One shows an energy conservation donut as indicated by the information in the lower half of the donut, the other no. If there are energy conserving additives indicated in the lower half of the donut, do not use in a wet clutch application. Mobile 1 - European formula does not have friction additives.
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Two things are wrong here:

It states "Superior AntiWear Protection", ergo, it is a Friction Modified oil.

do you seen the API-SN in the top right part of the Donut?

That means it is Energy Conserving, which means it has Friction Modifiers.

Take it back, and get one that says CK-4 compatible and the bottom half of the Donut is empty.


If you use that oil, the clutch plates will get slick and the clutch will start slipping down the road some where.


Don't know how much that cost you, but Rotella T6 in 5w40 only cost me $12.95 at Wal-Mart for a 5 quart jug, and I have been using that oil for a year with zero problems. The year before that, I used T5 in 10w30.


Rotella T5 in 10w30 is the same price.

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Motorcycle store said this oil is recommended for Goldwings

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When a store recommends something, I figure it's because there's a higher profit margin on that product.

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Not how it went with store, was reading it from book they have for Goldwing, will call them to make sure

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