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like harley, and probably others, they cannot tune the engine correctly or they violate epa. harley has had the same trick for years.
lower engine rpm for the drive by test. this is done without considering the engine luggs hard in high gear at highway speed.



retard timing at cruise to build heat in exhaust to supplement the cat converters.


lean tuning to less than stoich


add funny plastic wing thingy under the boys to keep from scorching


shut down rear cylinder and call it "parade mode" no joke!



tell customer "they all do that"



tell customer warranty will be voided if customer corrects problem.



finally, they are getting liquid cooling effective.

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I had the opportunity 3 years ago to ride another fella's Indian Chief while he rode my GL1500 in the Cody, WY area for half a day. I really liked the look of the bike, incredible paint job!, and it rode well. Enjoyed the ride. But I wouldn't want one, I mean to own and ride all the time. Much preferred the 1500 for handling, quiet operation and overall FEEL. Then again, it was MY bike! I would never want to own an air-cooled motorcycle again; what's the point, for a touring bike?
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I had the opportunity 3 years ago to ride another fella's Indian Chief while he rode my GL1500 in the Cody, WY area for half a day. I really liked the look of the bike, incredible paint job!, and it rode well. Enjoyed the ride. But I wouldn't want one, I mean to own and ride all the time. Much preferred the 1500 for handling, quiet operation and overall FEEL. Then again, it was MY bike! I would never want to own an air-cooled motorcycle again; what's the point, for a touring bike?

the point would be to tour, like in olden days, while being able to repair on the side of the road. air cooled is simple and fewer parts to fail. air cooled bikes will run as long as water cooled will, longer without the first breakdown, in most cases. touring once meant you could keep riding a motorcycle every day while doing your own maintenance. living in thwe country, not a trip to see the country. then comes the "image" and the weekend trippers who ride to the dealerships to get their run pins and a new patch for their vest. ohh, and more farkles!
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the point would be to tour, like in olden days, while being able to repair on the side of the road. air cooled is simple and fewer parts to fail. air cooled bikes will run as long as water cooled will, longer without the first breakdown, in most cases. touring once meant you could keep riding a motorcycle every day while doing your own maintenance. living in thwe country, not a trip to see the country. then comes the "image" and the weekend trippers who ride to the dealerships to get their run pins and a new patch for their vest. ohh, and more farkles!

Gee, you make a compelling case for air-cooled! And you didn't even the best part: Fried shins and nuts!
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[QUOTE=Cornpone;5788407]Gee, you make a compelling case for air-cooled! And you didn't even the best part: Fried shins and nuts![/QUOTE
properly built and tuned, there is no heat to fry anything. in contrast, every liquid cooled motorcycle will cook your cookies ever time you stop in traffic. you have no argument.


fact is, you cannot properly build and tune a goldwing! so they will always be hot. its by design.
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Gee, you make a compelling case for air-cooled! And you didn't even the best part: Fried shins and nuts![/QUOTE
properly built and tuned, there is no heat to fry anything. in contrast, every liquid cooled motorcycle will cook your cookies ever time you stop in traffic. you have no argument.


fact is, you cannot properly build and tune a goldwing! so they will always be hot. its by design.

Well, believe whatever you want. My opinion is based on 45 years of riding lots of air-cooled and several water-cooled bikes and I'll take the latter. Just personal preference.
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