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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 10-30-2018, 10:37 AM Thread Starter
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Almost dumped.....

94SE..... hit that pesky unintentional neutral yesterday ...... ( downshifting while coming to a stop ). Started turning right from dead stop and..... oh **** not again ! Sure makes you pucker.😰
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Almost doesn't count.
Moved because it is not a technical issue.

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Well, I was actually hoping to trigger someone who may know of a remedy for this. I have heard in the past that some 1500 trannys are prone to the neutral issue.
Point taken though.....
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Just have to be more careful when you downshift. Hope that is all there is to it. Has clutch fluid been changed and bled recently? Reservoir full? You do not have a heel toe shifter, do you?
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I just never, ever, try to downshift into 1st while coming up to a stop, I leave it in 2nd gear.
the flat six has more power than needed to move around at slow speeds....


if you are trying to do so, apply a small amount of power, preload the shifter a bit, and then tickle the clutch.... it will downshift solid every time.


and never be downshifting in a turn. bad news at slow speed.



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No heel toe shifter. Just need to get in habbit of looking at dash when stopped to be sure green neutral light isnt on.
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No heel toe shifter. Just need to get in habbit of looking at dash when stopped to be sure green neutral light isnt on.

No, you just need to keep power on, and the foot brake dragging a slight bit.
you cannot divert your eyes from "where you are going", if you do, you go down.


I ALWAYS keep a bit power power on, and the foot brake dragging ever slow slightly.


The Foot Brake is your Speed Control, the throttle is to be held in one position, and the clutch held in the Slippery Zone...


You must practice this for every stop, and I do it over and over and over....
Muscle Memory is what keeps the bike right side up.
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99% of the time I stop Im in the neutral. Actually way before that. Getting underpowered
could result in a broken leg especially climbing a steep mountain.

My friend Ray dropped his Triumph last week in a slow turn in the wrong gear.(3)

I see no problem with heel toe shifter and I guess the manufacturer or mechanics blame it for a faulty transmission. To me either you lift on one side or press down on another is the same. But again nobody blames me for being a mechanic genius.

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I try to remember to stop far enough back so I am pointed straight when I take off so I can be rolling just a little before I lean into the turn. If I kill the engine on take-off (it happens) I want to be as upright as possible. Sometimes it's possible to kinda begin the turn before I stop and then I'm already heading into the turn when I take off. They didn't teach that kinda stuff in the MSF classes I took and it's not quite as important on those 300 lb. bikes they give you for the course.

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I have a neighbor that ride's a newer Harley Trike, he never gets into first gear when coming by my house in a turn and speed bump. Then he lets out the clutch and off he goes with very little control of the bike. I have mentioned this to him but he still does the same thing. This guy is very inexperienced rider, and second gear is to fast for all the things he has to worry about. I told him that I go out to a parking lot and practice slow riding and turns on my bike but he thinks he knows it all. Well some day he will meet a car in that turn and it will not be pretty . I leave my bike in gear at stop signs and stop lights unless I need to get something out of my pocket and need two hands. I want to be ready to move if I need to.
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