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post #31 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-06-2019, 11:06 PM Thread Starter
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Instead of a heavy deep cycle battery, why not a good high cApacity lithium ion battery...or 2 if needed. Those will be considerably lighter while providing ample power. As for a solar panel to keep them charged, I use a solar battery maintainer panel from Harbor Freight or Northern Tools ...(about $20 each on sale) to keep my dozers 1100 amp battery charged when itís parked in the field away from electricity. I leave it connected all winter long and it has never overcharged the battery.
I have seen some smaller Lithium-ION batteries, but never one large enough to give any real power reserve to a heavy load. They are usually for recharging cell phones and such, but with this deep cycle marine battery, I could set up campsite lights, run a computer or two for many, many hours, run a CPAP machine all night long (I haven't yielded to that admission of old age quite yet) and even jump start my own bike or another bike, ... or that old Beetle stranded on the side of the long lonely country road driven a beautiful young nymph with a cute pouty face and body that could cause the Pope to kick in a stained glass window, sitting in the driver's seat in barely enough clothing to be legal in public because of the hot night air ...

Hey, it COULD happen!

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post #32 of 44 (permalink) Old 06-06-2019, 11:07 PM
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+1 on the LiPo batteries. WAY smaller and lighter. Really robust too. You could put two LiPo batteries in a fire bag for less than the cost of a decent deep cycle. Two 7.4 volt LiPos in series will start my truck no problem. 5.2 amp hour, 14.8v nominal, about $45.

Why not get like a proper tongue box from Harbor Freight? They're cheap, light, and designed for this.

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+1 on the LiPo batteries. WAY smaller and lighter. Really robust too. You could put two LiPo batteries in a fire bag for less than the cost of a decent deep cycle. Two 7.4 volt LiPos in series will start my truck no problem. 5.2 amp hour, 14.8v nominal, about $45.

Why not get like a proper tongue box from Harbor Freight? They're cheap, light, and designed for this.
Because the box alone is 46 pounds.

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+1 on the LiPo batteries. WAY smaller and lighter. Really robust too. You could put two LiPo batteries in a fire bag for less than the cost of a decent deep cycle. Two 7.4 volt LiPos in series will start my truck no problem. 5.2 amp hour, 14.8v nominal, about $45.

Why not get like a proper tongue box from Harbor Freight? They're cheap, light, and designed for this.
When you say two 7.4 batteries will START your truck "no problem", are you saying they will start your truck ALONE, or are you just using them to give your regular battery a quick boost? Because those two small batteries would have to produce some 400 cold cranking amps of power during the time you are cranking your engine.

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Hell, if you didn't want to give up the ridiculously small rear trunk space on the new Wings, even an external tank shaped to compliment the bike's body lines, in bright fire engine red, that securely fastens to the rear trunk rack could carry two or three gallons easily. For an IBA ride, you could use BOTH, and probably have a range of 400 miles or more.
I saw one aux tank that sits in the passenger seat, it held close to 5 gallons.
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My "Camping" battery is a 110 Amp-Hour Deep Cycle. Heavy as hell but lots of juice!

Besides pulling our Trav-Lite Camper with the bike it is often hitched to the back of the Jeep. We enjoy rock-hopping thru the 4X4 Forest Access roads in the Colorado high country and camping in the forest. There's plenty of roads not so "gnarly" we can't get the camper down them. When we do that, the camper is loaded very light - just blankets, foldy chairs and light stuff that doesn't care about getting bounced around, and most of the gear (Battery, too) is in the Jeep.

One of our favorite spots is at almost 10,000 ft Altitude, and it can get downright COLD (below freezing) at night. Been more than one night we hotted up an electric blanket on the AC inverter.

180 Watt 120v electric blanket = roughly 2 amps 120v AC, or 20 Amps 12v DC, add another 5 amps for inverter inefficiencies. Of course, the blanket isn't on constant, it cycles on and off. With a 110 Amp-Hr battery that's over 4 hrs of blanket "On" time. The battery also powers some strings of lights around the edge of the pop-up canopy and lighting above the cookstove and propane grill, the JVC Boom Box (Gotta have our tunes) and a laptop computer - We might watch a movie or two. If we don't use the blanket the battery will last a 4 day weekend on one charge, otherwise recharge it from the Jeep in the morning.

Try doing THAT with a Lithium Ion pack.

We don't usually need the battery when Bike camping, we're usually in a campground with power. But if there's room in the trailer I bring it anyway.

I want to make a box on the trailer tongue for the battery, but the BBQ sits there bungy-corded to the spare tire. Don't want that messy thing inside the camper. Will have to look at moving the spare tire and grill forward to do that.

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I want to make a box on the trailer tongue for the battery, but the BBQ sits there bungy-corded to the spare tire. Don't want that messy thing inside the camper. Will have to look at moving the spare tire and grill forward to do that.
Or have a talented welder extend the tongue! Tongue weight is ONLY an issue when it is close to the ball hitch. Three feet back, it is less of an issue.

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I saw one aux tank that sits in the passenger seat, it held close to 5 gallons.
Hey! Now There's an idea! A life-size hollow plastic fuel tank in the shape of a heart-stopping 22-year old well endowed female!! Take the helmet off and open the filler cap at the top of the head. Left leg feeds the engine, right leg is the reserve tank! Get snap-on biker chick clothing, some chaps to keep her cool, and a cool pair of sunglasses, and IBA, here we come!

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Try doing THAT with a Lithium Ion pack.
Not a problem with lithium iron phosphate. Half the weight but 5 to 10 times the price.

http://www.lithiumion-batteries.com/...m-ion-battery/
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Wouldn't it be nice if HONDA or some aftermarket genius came out with a high quality AUX fuel tank that would be blow molded to fit snugly and precisely inside of the rear trunk? You could raise up the lid, slip this bad boy into the rear trunk, and have maybe ... four gallons? of extra fuel.

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Except it would exceed the trunk carrying capacity. But unless you are stick people you already exceed the bike's capacity anyway.

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